And I agree with you for the most part. I agree 8 wins would be an amazing season. I probably should have responded to high horse rather than you.

I agree that Washington and Wisconsin are 99% loses. If argue that right now it's be hard to argue that BYU could beat both AZ and Cal. So that makes three losses. Ave while it's a rivalry game and anything can happen it's hard to justify a way that you pick BYU over Utah this year.

I think for a floor of less than 5 wins means that the program has completely come off the tracks and I don't see it.

I predict a 5-7 win season. With a chance at 8 wins as the best case scenario. If they do that with all the new pieces it sets up really nicely for 19 and 20.