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Sep 23, 2018
11:12:40pm

cougaman All-American

Here's what I see on video. Tanner Mangum throws the ball and you can see to the

15, and Romney has been off the screen for a full second, he is probably at around the 25 when Tanner throws it. Go forward, and as soon as you the shadows at the 30, Romney's shadow is a few inches ahead of the defender, and about a yard inside. Same distance it was at the 35. Tanner turns to catch the ball and the defender is right there. Please tell me where this huge distance is that he has to slow down for the ball. Between the 20-25 and the 30 yard line? Cause it doesn't really happen between the 30 and 40 yard line.

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Incomplete passes for Tanner yesterday.

cougaman

9/23/18 6:05pm

This really only tells part of the story though

9/23/18 6:08pm

He had a lot of shorter passes yesterday, but many of them seem to be more by

cougaman

9/23/18 6:13pm

Great post!

Cnation

9/23/18 6:14pm

Once thing I would add on the positive side is that he avoids pressure well.

WizeGuise

9/23/18 6:27pm

Yes he does

9/23/18 6:30pm

He'll throw the ball away instead of trying to make a late throw into coverage

Y-Zag

9/23/18 6:33pm

kind of reminds me of Heaps, he never seems comfortable in the pocket and ...

icecougar

9/23/18 7:05pm

Agreed

cougaman

9/23/18 7:26pm

like the pass he threw away in the 4th Q of the Wisconsin game to avoid the sack

icecougar

9/23/18 7:14pm

This is the more accurate assessment - a lot of the sacks he's "avoiding" are

jaba166

9/24/18 2:40am

Very true, good post.

pilot17

9/24/18 5:26am

nice breakdown

franklyvulgar

9/23/18 6:14pm

I thought tanner had a very good day. Other players struggled.

Y-Zag

9/23/18 6:19pm

that pass to MLP at the goalline was not a good pass. He threw it way too close

Goliath

9/23/18 6:19pm

Broken up by the defender but should have been caught why? Tanner underthrew

SandYFan

9/23/18 6:27pm

Please stop. Every team in the country needs their WRs to come up with that

coug10278

9/23/18 6:30pm

Average receiver has a hard time coming down with a pass at defender gets a hand

SandYFan

9/23/18 6:32pm

He didn't get his hand on the ball, and I don't think that Romney really had

cougaman

9/23/18 6:35pm

If he keeps running at the same speed the pass lands behind him.

SandYFan

9/23/18 6:37pm

Have you watched the replay? He had to come back for it and defender hit is arm.

Cnation

9/23/18 6:37pm

Come back for it? He turns his body. Surprisingly, he doesn't keep full speed

cougaman

9/23/18 7:00pm

You must not watch a lot of football if you don’tthink that wasn’t underthrown.

Cnation

9/23/18 7:07pm

Your saying this to the guy who just rewatched and broke

9/23/18 7:33pm

Watching it live it looked well under thrown.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/23/18 7:23pm

Watching the replay, out doesn't look like Romney slows down at all until he

cougaman

9/23/18 7:32pm

The tv replay doesn’t show the route until the end.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/23/18 7:36pm

3 yards? No. Maybe half a yard. He did have the inside track and if the ball was

cougaman

9/23/18 7:56pm

Agree to disagree.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/23/18 8:47pm

I would love to see any evidence to show me otherwise.

cougaman

9/23/18 8:54pm

That’s just it. Had to be there. Only 53k were so we will let it rest.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/23/18 10:48pm

I'm sure your memory is 100 % perfect and you saw everything perfectly from

cougaman

9/23/18 11:01pm

Here's what I see on video. Tanner Mangum throws the ball and you can see to the

cougaman

9/23/18 11:12pm

I’m not throwing Tanner under the bus nor am I one of those fans.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/23/18 11:18pm

Like I said in my other thread, it was slightly behind. But 2-3 feet on a 45

cougaman

9/23/18 11:23pm

And are we sure their CB doesn't just have closing speed to make up some of that

cougaman

9/23/18 11:24pm

Exactly. Thanks for understanding. 👍🏻

StalwartBraveTrue

9/23/18 11:15pm

Just watched it. Very catchable. That’s not on Tanner

cajuncoug

9/23/18 8:21pm

Offensive player had both hands on the ball for enough time to secure the ball.

cougaman

9/23/18 6:32pm

It was more than a touch. Romney had to slow down to adjust to the ball

SandYFan

9/23/18 6:34pm

This is a really good point. If it's not a perfect pass, then the WR shouldn't be expected to come up with it.

SpiffCoug

9/23/18 6:35pm

As long as you realize the pass was underthown I'm fine.

SandYFan

9/23/18 6:38pm

Several yesterday referred to it as “perfect” catchable yes but not easy catch

Osteotome

9/23/18 7:09pm

Especially if you are on scholarship- just make a play

acougfan

9/23/18 11:57pm

It was a fine throw. That's a long ball. He should have caught it.

LiveCoug

9/23/18 6:37pm

Why?

SandYFan

9/23/18 6:38pm

Because he got two hands on it

webster242

9/23/18 6:44pm

Defender knocked it with his hand. All bets are off at that point.

SandYFan

9/23/18 6:46pm

Maybe you should focus more on the play of the defender then instead of fishing

coug10278

9/23/18 6:51pm

I've watched it about a dozen times. I don't see a WR slowing down for an

cougaman

9/23/18 6:38pm

He turns, and gives the defender a clue the ball is coming. He keeps running and

cougaman

9/23/18 6:40pm

He slows down and he still has to turn around to catch it. If he keeps his speed

SandYFan

9/23/18 6:46pm

Tanner has his faults. This throw was not one of them. It was fine and should have been a catch. The end.

LiveCoug

9/23/18 6:49pm

Stating your opinion over and over isn't very convincing.

SandYFan

9/23/18 6:56pm

Saying he had to come back for the pass is completely void of truth

coug10278

9/23/18 7:01pm

You can see what you want.

SandYFan

9/23/18 7:04pm

Yeah what actually happened. Any speed he lost is because he turned & jumped

coug10278

9/23/18 7:13pm

SO HE SLOWED DOWN AND STILL HAD TO TURN TO CATCH THE BALL.

SandYFan

9/23/18 7:33pm

Oh totally changed my mind because of the all CAPS

coug10278

9/23/18 8:14pm

Way to ignore the substance. I'll take that as you saying you're wrong.

SandYFan

9/23/18 8:41pm

What substance...the CAPS...bravo.

coug10278

9/23/18 8:52pm

You're 100% correct, Romney had 2/3 steps on the db and had to slow because the

blackshirts

9/23/18 10:22pm

Holy unreal expectations.

cougaman

9/23/18 10:26pm

Finally saw the Romney pass. Yeah, that definitely should have been caught

LiveCoug

9/23/18 6:33pm

Anyone else notice that after every game this year the company line is:

9/23/18 6:47pm

To be fair it makes me think of posters not to be named

coug10278

9/23/18 6:54pm

Anyone notice that every time anything goes wrong with the offense people are

cougaman

9/23/18 6:55pm

His WR’s aren’t helping him out. That’s for sure.

9/23/18 7:02pm

it could be his Heisman slogan

icecougar

9/23/18 7:18pm

Spot on Gerald! Because if he really “wasn't that bad,” we’d be something like

dreamlvr

9/23/18 7:19pm

Wut?

9/23/18 9:11pm

Really good post! Mangum played well.

joesemenoff

9/23/18 7:03pm

I thought 1 was well under thrown and 6 was PI

StalwartBraveTrue

9/23/18 7:10pm

This is CB...where anything goes. Now it was well underthrown.

coug10278

9/23/18 7:15pm

4.6 ypa against a fcs team.

youngbuck

9/23/18 7:18pm

Is That Tanners fault or a Grimes?

cougaman

9/23/18 7:29pm

How did it compare to last year? You tell me?

youngbuck

9/23/18 8:34pm

Yeah. That would have been much worse than losing the game

cougaman

9/23/18 8:53pm

TM fault, he doesn't go through progressions...he check #1 panics and dumps

blackshirts

9/23/18 10:32pm

I think you think you sound smart saying this, but I doubt you can actually see

dreamlvr

9/23/18 11:17pm

Romney's dropped pass would have changed it. So is it a receiver problem?

Y-Zag

9/23/18 7:55pm

Tanner threw a mediocre ball that allowed the defender to get a hand on it.

SandYFan

9/23/18 8:42pm

Now you're trolling.

coug10278

9/23/18 8:53pm

The Romney pass was underthrown about 5'. Should have ben caught. Receiver wai

oldrugger

9/23/18 8:03pm

5 feet on a 50 yard pass is an underthrow? First, I don't even think it was 5

cougaman

9/23/18 8:20pm

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