Like he was in the mwc recruiting has not improved but we continue to ramp up our front part of our schedule usually drop a couple games (sprinkle in demoralizing blow out) get some key guys hurt and we don’t have depth like the p5s. Yeah not being in a p5 is hurting us but pretending we are p5 isn’t helping. The meaningless trophy is more success than we are having now and on the decent years we would have a shot at ny6 access but as Indy our decent years will still be 3 or so losses with no ranking because the losses will come early and we’ll lose all momentum