Why would anyone who isn't Mormon deliberately abstain from both?

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Jan 5, 2019
11:33:47pm

OpusX All-American

You're asking adult athletes to come to Provo and be content with holding hands for four years. That's a tough sell.

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OpusX

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rivercitycoug

1/5/19 11:11pm

Bingo.

Throwaway59840

1/5/19 11:11pm

B-I-N-G-O, B-I-N-G-O, B-I-N-G-O and Bingo was his name oh.

Q-grr

1/5/19 11:50pm

Needed to keep guys from leaving. This culture of bailing for Europe is toxic.

soupie

1/5/19 11:13pm

Because BYU can only recruit LDS guys?

BYU '80

1/5/19 11:13pm

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rivercitycoug

1/5/19 11:16pm

It only takes a few that wouldn’t and he doesn’t try

BYU '80

1/5/19 11:17pm

I agree about all of your guys but Merrill was not a miss.

BountifulCoug5

1/5/19 11:41pm

No way.

The Old Y

1/6/19 12:06am

Wrong. Proof in pudding. Merrill was a big miss hombre

Swishfromdeep3

1/6/19 10:15am

I went to almost every bountiful game and IMO Seljaas was the way better player

BountifulCoug5

1/6/19 10:40am

But 20/20 you’d still not call it a miss?

RedlandsCoug

1/6/19 1:56pm

I mean now I guess it seems like a miss because he’s

BountifulCoug5

1/6/19 6:28pm

Seljaas had the higher rating from 247 sports (links):

NewMexiCoug

1/6/19 2:30pm

That’s because Seljaas would be an NBA prospect if he hadn’t lost his shot

puntersarepeople

1/6/19 2:37pm

Obviously.

NewMexiCoug

1/6/19 2:58pm

I don’t completely agree about Merrill

tboneonline

1/6/19 12:18pm

Why would anyone who isn't Mormon deliberately abstain from both?

OpusX

1/5/19 11:33pm

LDS kids struggle with that!

BYURider

1/5/19 11:59pm

Why would you think Mormons are the only people who abstain and stay alcohol

coastcat

1/6/19 7:17am

Wait...Holding hands? That’s all we could do? Ooooooops...

Pretorian

1/6/19 11:25am

My best friend stood in the MTC mission president's line to confess...

OpusX

1/6/19 3:13pm

your friend had the weirdest humblebrag ever

vagabonder

1/6/19 7:45pm

that's funny, I'm not sure if we were not as righteous or not as uptight but I

Pretorian

1/6/19 8:53pm

Not all non-LDS kids are raging partiers. Read the Jordan Johnson story.

andrewg3

1/6/19 12:15am

The word of wisdom is not the problem.

BYURider

1/6/19 12:17am

Let me be more clear: not all non-LDS kids are incapable of keepin it in pants

andrewg3

1/6/19 12:26am

Sure, but we're talking percentages here. High school kids like Jordan Johnson

Game Changer

1/6/19 12:41am

It takes a rare talent to build a program where you can convince playing for

pappabear246

1/6/19 10:41am

You certainly decrease the available numbers with that restriction.

Archaea

1/6/19 2:15pm

But very, very few want to

cajuncoug

1/6/19 7:04am

Developing and keeping talent is the problem

puntersarepeople

1/6/19 9:32am

Yes. A very big part of it of late

cajuncoug

1/6/19 10:30am

Coach can't put in what Divinity leaves out.

Archaea

1/6/19 2:16pm

You realize Mormons don’t have a monopoly on standards?

KendoVABeach

1/6/19 12:50am

No one else really thinks of drinking as not having standards

memento

1/6/19 1:45pm

Or simply the prospects of not getting booted from school for doing said things

cajuncoug

1/6/19 8:21am

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rivercitycoug

1/5/19 11:14pm

Every time you paint with a brush that wide you’re wrong (except this time)

Pretorian

1/6/19 11:28am

It’s not required for players to be LDS. Only HC, which is stupid too.

Nakedbootleg

1/5/19 11:14pm

Time to recruit internationally.

tjngirlz

1/5/19 11:14pm

Like outside Utah County?

billyrust

1/5/19 11:15pm

now, let's not get too crazy here.

runnincoug

1/5/19 11:16pm

Yeah, we need to build a wall, too many players from Idaho are coming across...

icecougar

1/6/19 1:43pm

Past time

Oldcougfan

1/5/19 11:16pm

My daughter’s boyfriend’s dad used to run a B-Ball academy in Australia *Edit

tjngirlz

1/5/19 11:20pm

This is my main complaint about Rose. I agree with the OP in that most recruits

Game Changer

1/5/19 11:33pm

International players want even less to do with the HC than American HS kids.

WarBYU

1/6/19 1:28am

Really? What makes you say that? My thought is a relatively unknown kid in

Game Changer

1/6/19 1:32am

Soooo, we don’t have churches in foreign countries?

tjngirlz

1/6/19 8:49am

Many including Merrill from usu and Johnson at utah..both lost, but are good.

jamesjessestrang

1/5/19 11:18pm

And Connor Tools on at uvu..and probably others

jamesjessestrang

1/5/19 11:19pm

Merrill is a great college player. Arguably best player in the State

thebruce

1/5/19 11:24pm

Uh. Youve see Yoeli Childs play?

The Old Y

1/6/19 12:08am

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thebruce

1/6/19 7:12am

Jayce Johnson is not LDS

lilpenny

1/6/19 4:36am

It's not even that. How many blue collar kids did he pass on that could put a

777

1/5/19 11:21pm

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rivercitycoug

1/5/19 11:24pm

Blue collar = Nixon, Worthington, Cannon, Seljaas, Bergersen...etc...

icecougar

1/6/19 1:53pm

His inability to retain players has been a big problem

thebruce

1/5/19 11:26pm

Zion Williamson

triumph

1/5/19 11:35pm

How did we not get a guy named Zion to BYU? Probably cause we didn't have a song

runnincoug

1/6/19 12:05am

Why only LDS guys?

BountifulCoug5

1/5/19 11:39pm

Erika Mika and Elijah Bryant - both left to go pro..... Keep your own guys 1st..

BDAWG

1/6/19 1:27am

Add Dastrup, Merril, and Jake Toolson and better coaching and BYU would be

johnnybyu

1/6/19 1:36am

Thurl Bailey’s kid.

UNHuskerCoug

1/6/19 10:59am

...was never coming to BYU, Dave Rose or not

NewMexiCoug

1/6/19 2:33pm

He fits every criteria of the OP question.

UNHuskerCoug

1/6/19 2:39pm

RE: Honest question - who are the D1 LDS players playing right now that Dave

longtimeYfan

1/6/19 11:43am

What's funny is that teen pregnancy rates have been decreasing and they're

memento

1/6/19 1:51pm

Declining morals has little to do with teen pregnancy and having sex. The fact

NewMexiCoug

1/6/19 2:57pm

Of course it does. Indicating it has little to do and merely the "thought" of it

memento

1/6/19 3:11pm

It is not the "thought" of it, it is the overall attitude towards it. We are

NewMexiCoug

1/6/19 3:14pm

I think you might have deleted your post b/c i just see my text in your post

memento

1/6/19 3:21pm

Try again. I was using it as a draft but then hit return by mistake

NewMexiCoug

1/6/19 3:36pm

My argument is that it's morality is infinitely more nuanced than that.

memento

1/6/19 4:38pm

Your last paragraph is the whole point: The chasm - it wasn't always there, or

NewMexiCoug

1/6/19 4:59pm

I went to BYU and am LDS. However, I just don't find the argument

memento

1/6/19 5:22pm

I agree with you about the categorization of other belief systems as immoral or

NewMexiCoug

1/6/19 7:01pm

We live in a world of political correctness and that is a problem

puntersarepeople

1/6/19 7:51pm

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