Team sports are being optimized, often making the sport unrecognizable

Apr 22, 2019
5:58:52pm

Busiturtle All-American

From what it once was.

The Jazz vs Houston series has a basketball, but they are not playing basketball as I knew it 20 years ago. Even the isolation plays of today are different than the MJ game.

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Busiturtle

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League records being set this year

nephicoug

4/22/19 5:53pm

Almost everything you said seems like very positive trends to me

kimdaddy35

4/22/19 5:58pm

Scoring itself is not up. Scoring efficiency is up. The highest scoring seasons

nephicoug

4/22/19 6:01pm

Scoring has trended way up over the past 10 years. It isn't as high as the

kimdaddy35

4/23/19 11:00am

Scoring being up has as much to do with pace than anything. If you look at the

nephicoug

4/24/19 11:59am

I do think one negative trend is the reduced # of assists and is why so many

nephicoug

4/22/19 6:05pm

I agree that assists going down is not good for basketball

kimdaddy35

4/23/19 11:01am

Team sports are being optimized, often making the sport unrecognizable

Busiturtle

4/22/19 5:58pm

It's all about efficiency. That's what metrics do for sports. The only reason

CSoul

4/22/19 6:04pm

As a note I think the 3 line should be moved back and side 3 eliminated

CSoul

4/22/19 6:07pm

Me too. I also think they need to widen out the lane at the baseline similar to

nephicoug

4/22/19 6:07pm

FIBA did away with the trapezoid lane years ago

CaliWG

4/22/19 7:33pm

That would give defensive play some help

Busiturtle

4/22/19 6:09pm

What it would do is make the game even more of a perimeter game

kimdaddy35

4/23/19 11:24am

I wonder what removing the corner 3 would do to spacing?

Dillinger

4/22/19 6:14pm

It would change a lot. Might be something for the G league to try out?

CSoul

4/22/19 6:40pm

How would it open it up? It would clog things a lot more in my opinion

kimdaddy35

4/23/19 11:03am

If, in theory, no one is chilling out in the corners on offense the would be

Dillinger

4/23/19 11:30am

How would they be farther away from the basket? Are you going to put them up

kimdaddy35

4/23/19 3:11pm

RE: How would they be farther away from the basket? Are you going to put them

Dillinger

4/23/19 3:15pm

You just made the case for what I’ve been saying for years, and is why the NBA

Lifi

4/22/19 6:11pm

The stats don't say people aren't playing defense.

CSoul

4/22/19 6:13pm

3 worst defensive efficiency years in league history were past 3 years

nephicoug

4/22/19 6:15pm

That's just because of 3s, defense on them was average.

CSoul

4/22/19 6:16pm

5 of the lowest turnover percentages in league history were in the past 6 years

nephicoug

4/22/19 6:17pm

Again, most turnovers happen inside the arc. Most of the game happens

CSoul

4/22/19 6:21pm

Defense doesn't impact 3-point shooting percentage, only 3PA/FGA

nephicoug

4/22/19 6:18pm

In fact, when you look at the league's best defenses - aside from the Bucks -

nephicoug

4/22/19 6:25pm

You can't control how many 3s they take either. Like I said, teams are taking

CSoul

4/22/19 6:25pm

Actually you can. The Jazz do it very well - 1st in the league. Which is why

nephicoug

4/22/19 6:28pm

I just don't think the amount you can limit 3 pt attempts makes up for the

CSoul

4/22/19 6:32pm

Houston has shot 41, 42, 45 threes in their three games this series

CSoul

4/22/19 6:37pm

And their defensive ratings were 123.6, 117.7 and last night 103.0

nephicoug

4/22/19 6:45pm

Wow...dude, nobody’s playing defense anymore

Lifi

4/22/19 6:16pm

You’re not paying attention if you think that

PHXSUNS31

4/22/19 6:17pm

You said you hardly watch, how do you know?

CSoul

4/22/19 6:18pm

Why don’t you just agree that the game today is completely

Lifi

4/22/19 6:24pm

I was just responding to your post, I don't care if you hate the NBA now

CSoul

4/22/19 6:34pm

I don’t think anyone is saying it’s not different. It’s obviously different

PHXSUNS31

4/22/19 6:51pm

You should send him a boardmail

Epileptic Beagle

4/22/19 7:42pm

The PF doesn’t exist? A PF is going to win the MVP

PHXSUNS31

4/22/19 6:18pm

It’s really easy to spot people that know nothing about the nba

Dillinger

4/22/19 6:33pm

In Lifi's defense I wouldn't call guarding Harden's rear end, defense

Busiturtle

4/22/19 6:36pm

Not sure what fundamentals have regressed? Definitely not shooting, passing or dribbling.

Baron

4/22/19 6:50pm

I think what's changed is the NBA has found the perfect NBA athlete

Busiturtle

4/22/19 7:06pm

The game is more complex than ever on both ends of the floor

MwangoleCoug9

4/22/19 7:49pm

LOL, so much of what you say directly contradicts itself

kimdaddy35

4/23/19 11:23am

Pace might not be high compared to 70's and early 80's, but it is higher than

Josef K

4/22/19 6:21pm

Aren’t some of those stats explained by the emphasis on 3-pt shooting?

garyfan

4/22/19 6:28pm

That was the 3rd paragraph in my post

nephicoug

4/22/19 6:31pm

I see. Didn’t know you were tying them all together there.

garyfan

4/22/19 6:31pm

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nephicoug

4/22/19 6:30pm

How many extra steps taken on drives to the basket and step-back threes?

ataylor

4/22/19 6:50pm

Lack of defense, lack of hustle show up in those stats. NBA is lame now.

chilango

4/22/19 9:32pm

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