They can start by not botching Big 12 negotiations twice and beating Utah once

Aug 15, 2019
5:55:19pm

Backcountry All-American

or twice in a decade. They can reinvest in infrastructure and make an effort to keep up with Utah and Utah State. BYU doesn't take winning seriously. If they want to expand the fanbase, they need to prioritize winning.

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I've seen some in the BYU AD department ask fans on twitter why they haven't

Dangerous

8/15/19 2:50pm

It's almost like they're in a bubble and can't see what's outside.

ToasterChive

8/15/19 2:51pm

Yep. And obviously being P5 helps Utah, but if they were 3-7 with no

Dangerous

8/15/19 2:53pm

100 100.

DocPimp

8/15/19 6:47pm

I’m willing to bet the NIU game alone lost some season ticket holders

LifelongAP

8/15/19 6:56pm

The prices doubled for the cheap seats. That’s the number one reason.

jimmer4pres

8/15/19 9:37pm

It's almost like they are running a business and they are asking the customers how they can do better. Isn't that a

HarlemCoug

8/15/19 3:10pm

No, it's like they are asking customers to keep buying their product even when

cougarnerd

8/15/19 3:12pm

time will tell

HarlemCoug

8/15/19 3:18pm

Hopefully, my life expectancy doesn't expire before that time comes.

CougarThug

8/15/19 5:47pm

Yes, no problem with it, but just seems obvious to many.

ToasterChive

8/15/19 3:25pm

Should have been done starting in 2010

Backcountry

8/15/19 5:52pm

61,300 in 2010 vs 52,400 2018.

kooogar

8/15/19 11:40pm

Conflicting wants between the admin and AD. It's that simple

TNT

8/15/19 7:25pm

They know exactly why; always poll your users to confirm, rank, priority & pulse

kapcreations

8/15/19 6:48pm

A church-run entity, located in Provo, in a bubble? No way!

Kerbouchard

8/15/19 10:24pm

I think they've believed for a long time that great schedules are the big thing

BYU Fan

8/15/19 2:55pm

They also need to realize how demoralizing losses to UMASS and NIU

Dangerous

8/15/19 2:57pm

Hence the reason Lisa Wilson started her campaign to change the BYU gameday experience

LifelongAP

8/15/19 5:37pm

Um....

rggee

8/15/19 8:40pm

Sadly I wasn't back yet for that one

BYU Fan

8/15/19 9:26pm

I think they ask non-renewals every year why they didn't renew.

Lance71

8/15/19 2:56pm

If they'd let people renew their seats without getting bumped by higher tier cc

franklyvulgar

8/15/19 3:01pm

The people who donate the most should get the first pick of seats.

HarlemCoug

8/15/19 3:16pm

BYU has a nice mix of reserved seats and higher donors pick first seats. I have

BYUtka

8/15/19 3:54pm

This is why Tics for 20 yrs

Gandolfthewhite

8/15/19 4:14pm

Could you explain more? Donor Seats are by priority, so changed every year.

BYUtka

8/15/19 6:04pm

They don’t reserve your season tickets for you from the previous year they

franklyvulgar

8/15/19 7:40pm

This🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝

Gandolfthewhite

8/15/19 9:27pm

That must have been when they moved the band and ROC to the SEZ. The EZ seats

BYUtka

8/15/19 9:38pm

North and South End Zone Seats are reserved for you unless you pass on them.

BYUtka

8/15/19 9:30pm

I'm just a middle of the road CC member and I assure you, being a big donor

SWP

8/16/19 10:40am

Are you saying that if they realized this they would try to win more games?

Sea Chicken

8/15/19 2:59pm

Can't ignore the player comments last year about not getting up for home games

stoils

8/15/19 3:45pm

I disagree

Backcountry

8/15/19 5:53pm

BYU, and by that I mean the powers that be at BYU, has a disconnect...

CoachSpeak

8/15/19 3:04pm

Agreed they don't look at it like a business and a product and people can choose

franklyvulgar

8/15/19 3:10pm

They only lay the guilt trip on when it comes to football and basketball

Pony Zale

8/15/19 3:22pm

It's not just specific to the Athletic Dept, BYU often thinks people owe them...

cougarmeister

8/15/19 3:24pm

I think you are right. Almost like a can’t be a good member and not support BYU

USMCdad

8/15/19 3:38pm

It is pretty standard practice when losing a customer to survey them about why

NewMexiCoug

8/15/19 4:11pm

I don’t have a problem with the survey, that’s good business...

CoachSpeak

8/15/19 5:00pm

Yes, this is the "bubble" they live in.

Kerbouchard

8/15/19 10:25pm

Completely agree. They sit and do nothing to increase fanship and keep what they

Coug Dude

8/16/19 10:58pm

So true. We're all fans but we also work hard for our money and don't want to

cougarnerd

8/15/19 3:07pm

This athletic department has taken fans for granted for too long and its killing

Backcountry

8/15/19 3:29pm

I've never felt "taken for granted." What do you think they should be doing?

Level43

8/15/19 3:42pm

They can start by not botching Big 12 negotiations twice and beating Utah once

Backcountry

8/15/19 5:55pm

Dont forget late night kickoffs. people dont like getting home at 1-2 am.

Count Cougar

8/15/19 3:30pm

I ask myself one question: What time is the game?

RockyBalboa

8/15/19 3:38pm

Mine isn’t so much PTSD as it it being superstitious. The Cougars have lost the majority of the games I’ve attended in

Nuke

8/15/19 6:58pm

A few more data points that aren't helping:

ataylor

8/15/19 3:39pm

That middle stat is awful.

cruiserhead

8/15/19 4:21pm

They're all pretty telling.

ataylor

8/15/19 4:29pm

Time to change all of those stats

puntersarepeople

8/15/19 4:35pm

Almost thou persuadest me to be a Ute fan.

Gate5

8/15/19 5:36pm

The product has been bad

deliciousmocha

8/15/19 4:13pm

Boring & bad offense + bad losses to poor programs = declining attendance

BYUfan92

8/15/19 4:16pm

Why the contrast to Utah? I don't care about Utah or their fans

Judge Judy

8/15/19 5:14pm

You know why. They are the direct recruiting competition and the rival.

Backcountry

8/15/19 5:59pm

Your post discusses the product. The other part of the equation is cost.

frontrowcougar

8/15/19 5:43pm

I will add another couple things

D.T. Survivor

8/15/19 5:50pm

Unfortunately, I am one who has not renewed my tickets for trendiest time in 20

BlueForLife

8/15/19 5:57pm

So basically the Ty Detmer effect.

Hawk Talons

8/15/19 6:12pm

So true. They need to know that we prefer wins and that we want Notre Dame

chazen

8/15/19 6:19pm

Prefer? Fans demand wins. Someone tell the coaches/admin quickly.

charles

8/15/19 7:48pm

We would love to have season tickets.

Mark

8/15/19 6:20pm

"fans"

AZcougLawyer

8/15/19 7:18pm

Reaching out on Twitter is dumb in general; asking dumb questions is dumber

ColoSpgs

8/15/19 7:38pm

wifi, bathrooms and easier upper deck, Cougar canyon, UVU students, etc...

palangi

8/15/19 8:04pm

I had bought season ticket since Bronco's first year

Blue Ghost

8/15/19 8:37pm

Just wait! This year is going to be special.

Gandolfthewhite

8/15/19 9:32pm

Yes it will. Good things lie ahead.

Pigskin Pete

8/18/19 12:24pm

AD Department? Is that like the Department of DOT, or the SAT test?

fatcracker

8/15/19 10:17pm

Don't forget PIN number

Kerbouchard

8/15/19 10:27pm

Winning cures these problems.

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8/15/19 10:55pm

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