Oh yeah? Tell that to these guys:

Aug 20, 2019
3:26:54am

mrphotogenic All-American

Best- & Worst-Run Cities in America

https://wallethub.com/edu/best-run-cities/22869/#detailed

Of course, I wonder about the validity of this list since Nampa--the city that I live in and which I often consider a mess--is listed as the best run city in the United States.

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I hate everything about Provo/Orem city planning.

maxpowers

8/19/19 5:18pm

Utah county is a train wreck right now

BlueFrog

8/19/19 5:28pm

When it comes to construction, it's always a trainwreck.

BYUALWAYSNUM1

8/19/19 8:02pm

Orem 800 north to university merge will

PickleButton

8/19/19 5:31pm

Yep. Avoid the mouth of the canyon at all costs. It is a mess right now. On

BYUtka

8/19/19 5:38pm

It was hell on earth after stadium of fire

Probable Sacko

8/19/19 5:42pm

And all the construction isn't even going to fix any traffic.

Lance71

8/19/19 5:33pm

No need. We now have rapid transit via UTA to go with no more left turns ever on University Ave.

Probable Sacko

8/19/19 5:44pm

The bus might actually be a good idea.

BYUtka

8/19/19 9:34pm

Bus service ends at the same time the game does... Big problem, and given that

UberDeek

8/19/19 10:57pm

Don’t they have bus services from University Mall to the game? Gotta take every

akmewg

8/19/19 11:04pm

Previous late games it has always been extended. Especially with many fans

BYUtka

8/20/19 7:23am

Nope. All of this is sewer/water/curb stuff. Won't improve traffic flow.

Michael McQuain

8/19/19 5:54pm

Craziest intersection I've seen, University and Sandhill Rd.

PJMort

8/19/19 6:07pm

Yep some of the most ridiculous intersections are there and

kotacoug

8/19/19 8:07pm

These intersections are awesome. Redwood isn't near the headache it used to be

Adwight

8/19/19 9:42pm

The city is way ahead of schedule. Try living in Seattle or LA or NY.

brazilcoug

8/19/19 6:10pm

People need to understand that road construction is actually a good thing.

brazilcoug

8/19/19 6:11pm

I always hear people complain of traffic in Utah and then I go there

bluesloth

8/19/19 6:29pm

This. My extended family complains but when I visit...

Cougstreak

8/19/19 7:37pm

Likewise in Clt

Pretorian

8/19/19 7:58pm

And Oregon. It took 25 years to add a 3rd lane to hwy 26...

bluefish

8/19/19 6:33pm

And still only 2 lanes on 217. Bumper to bumper traffic

bluesloth

8/19/19 6:36pm

I was thinking the same thing today. But it’s all of Utah county

SlantRoute

8/19/19 6:34pm

The best was expanding the freeway evewhere in Utah county except for the 5 mile

akmewg

8/19/19 9:20pm

My wife asked me the other day if I was ready to move out of Provo. This was

Ode to Hoy

8/19/19 6:58pm

Solution: Go early, enjoy gameday

B Blue

8/19/19 7:48pm

Not everyone has 8 hrs to set aside for a football game

maxpowers

8/19/19 7:50pm

Sounds like they will next Thursday...

Refugee

8/19/19 8:08pm

Not even the first one vs your rival?

B Blue

8/19/19 8:18pm

Pretty sure we all have 24 hours in a day.

Superman21

8/19/19 9:39pm

You must not be married.

yahtzee

8/19/19 10:08pm

14 years with 4 kids. I’ve had season tickets for 10 years.

Superman21

8/19/19 11:23pm

RE: 14 years with 4 kids. I’ve had season tickets for 10 years.

yahtzee

8/19/19 11:35pm

4 marriages, but married 14 years. I'm kidding. Don't be mad.

sah22

8/20/19 8:31pm

Maybe it's a ploy to have yewts forfeit for showing up late to game.

sah22

8/19/19 8:33pm

I wish they put a tenth of the effort into building out bike infrastructure

runnincoug

8/19/19 8:39pm

I was with you until the "city planning" part.

CrimsonCardinal

8/19/19 9:07pm

Pretty sure Univ Ave and Univ Pkwy are state roads

ProvoSpain

8/19/19 9:11pm

too many people plus UVU emergence

Samuel Hall Society

8/19/19 9:41pm

No foresight, just reactionary planning thats 10 yrs behind

pegushin

8/19/19 9:53pm

Yep. Reactive 100%. How bout plan and build for the future for once?

SlantRoute

8/19/19 10:01pm

they are too "conservative" and anti taxation. the hard conservative bloc in UT

runnincoug

8/20/19 5:47am

Only in some ways. Provo also elected John Curtis as their mayor. Curtis

Megamind

8/20/19 11:18am

Curtis was a bit more progressive and I think Provo benefited because of it. The

runnincoug

8/20/19 11:51am

There aren't enough people biking to improve driving. And the ones that do bike

Throwaway59840

8/20/19 3:55pm

Actually it's not true at all! Provo would explode if it had the biking

runnincoug

8/20/19 6:29pm

I'm not saying no one wants it. I'm saying that the people who want it mostly

Throwaway59840

8/21/19 2:02pm

Transit is key, but biking greatly helps in UT. A few responses and data points

runnincoug

8/21/19 2:57pm

Some people will use it, but not enough to ease car traffic. Every major city in

Throwaway59840

8/21/19 4:16pm

That's simply not true. The data clearly shows that biking eases traffic.

runnincoug

8/21/19 4:26pm

My point is that a 30% reduction in "way too long" is still "way too long." You

Throwaway59840

8/21/19 5:36pm

It's still probably the most effective use of money for traffic reduction.

runnincoug

8/21/19 6:16pm

Man! Lots of PEs on CB! First, it's not planning but Public Works.

ugo1st

8/19/19 11:03pm

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SlantRoute

8/19/19 11:16pm

yep..time to buy a scooter to park at the stadium!

breakingblue

8/19/19 11:53pm

Oh yeah? Tell that to these guys:

mrphotogenic

8/20/19 3:26am

University Pkwy needs to be freeway w/ no stops from I-15:BYU. Raised overpasses & exits like Bangerter now is.

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