BYU has self imposed limits to its success. Those are not going away.

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Sep 17, 2019
1:10:19pm

Goatnapper'96 All-American

But at present the external imposed limits are far bigger impediments.

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Goatnapper'96

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I was at the game Saturday, and I still really don't like Indy.

Klompus

9/17/19 12:02pm

In the immortal words of Eddie Van Hagar......

Goatnapper'96

9/17/19 12:03pm

....Doubt your doubts!

Florwood

9/17/19 1:05pm

Agree. Also, we had two shots at P5 and our arrogance and incompetence killed us

Backcountry

9/17/19 12:03pm

Proof of this?

BYUtka

9/17/19 12:21pm

Well, we aren't in a P5 so I guess that is proof

kolob32

9/17/19 12:25pm

Right, but it wasn't arrogance or incompetence that kept us out.

BYUtka

9/17/19 12:27pm

Proof of this?

kolob32

9/17/19 12:29pm

Well, we aren't in a P5 so I guess that is proof.

BYUtka

9/17/19 12:33pm

Plenty of it. Those who followed it know what happened

Backcountry

9/17/19 12:24pm

I followed it. The "Arrogance" thing is a Yewt myth. Not true at all. We were

BYUtka

9/17/19 12:27pm

We asked for too much when we should have been begging for a spot.

Backcountry

9/17/19 12:28pm

100% False. We didn't. That is all based on anti-BYU speculation.

BYUtka

9/17/19 12:29pm

It is really based upon being unable to emotionally digest and accept

Goatnapper'96

9/17/19 12:33pm

Sure. But BYUs unique place is self-imposed. Ultimately its a choice.

Backcountry

9/17/19 12:40pm

BYU has self imposed limits to its success. Those are not going away.

Goatnapper'96

9/17/19 1:10pm

So, you love cougars of all types, huh?

Goliath

9/17/19 12:07pm

All types, and colors 😉

Klompus

9/17/19 12:12pm

I just disagree. I didn't ever care about winning the MWC championship. Per

macdizzle

9/17/19 12:08pm

I have a hard time thinking Hall, Beck, Collie, Pitta, Unga, Doman, Staley

kolob32

9/17/19 12:29pm

I'll bet significant money that Max Hall cares more about/remembers more fondly/

macdizzle

9/17/19 3:55pm

BYU has the same bowl Tie-ins as they would have in a G5 conference;

OGSuperfan

9/17/19 12:12pm

Too often people put the blame for what BYU is not

Goatnapper'96

9/17/19 12:15pm

True. But among the remaining options, one is better than the other

Backcountry

9/17/19 12:25pm

Depends on what folks define as "better."

Goatnapper'96

9/17/19 12:31pm

Totally unfounded and arrogant comment. BYU does NOT have access to the NY6.

Klompus

9/17/19 12:15pm

Until BYU has a team that finishes 11-1 it is all pretty much conjecture.

Goatnapper'96

9/17/19 12:18pm

If BYU is left without a home in a big boy conference during the next wave of

rainorsnow

9/17/19 12:20pm

NY6 "access" is a red herring. How often would BYU be the top-ranked G5 champ?

boscatar

9/17/19 12:32pm

Yes, we do. There are 6 NY6 bowls. 3 of them have conference tie ins. 3 do not.

BYUMizzou

9/17/19 12:43pm

I believe Notre Dame can only take the SEC/B1G slot in the Orange Bowl

boscatar

9/17/19 12:52pm

I think they can also take an ACC slot if they have at least 2 more wins than

BYUMizzou

9/17/19 1:01pm

Notre Dame can only go twice in 12 years, *in place of* the SEC or B1G opponent

boscatar

9/17/19 1:03pm

One thing going for a top-10 BYU in the single at large slot scenario would be -

boscatar

9/17/19 12:55pm

IF BYU goes unbeaten the rest of the year, with the only loss to a really good

OGSuperfan

9/17/19 12:57pm

Even if we get in a P5 conference, do you think we are going to be contending

westsidecoug

9/17/19 12:15pm

Winning 6-8 games in a confernce is far more exciting that winning 6-8 as Indy.

Klompus

9/17/19 12:17pm

That is what I am saying though. In a P5, you wouldn't have the "fun" of a

westsidecoug

9/17/19 1:53pm

I think Indy's a good guy. His alter ego, Sea Chicken, on the other hand...

SoCalCoug

9/17/19 12:16pm

It's better than the MWC, not as good as the Big 12. I think most of us here

SoCalCoug

9/17/19 12:17pm

That sucks. I'm excited about what this team can do from here. I don't recall

GatorCoug

9/17/19 12:17pm

'I am not a fan of MWC', proceeds to sell AAC or 'best of rest'. You support

coug almighty

9/17/19 12:20pm

I would MUCH rather be in the AAC than the MWC. I watch a lot of AAC football,

Klompus

9/17/19 1:21pm

BYU would contend, but by no means be the annual NY6 front-runner

boscatar

9/17/19 1:48pm

I agree with this. So maybe one time since 2014 making the CCG.

Klompus

9/17/19 1:51pm

The AAC is losing perennial cellar-dweller UConn. So, the bottom isn't as bad

boscatar

9/17/19 2:17pm

Houston is currently #8 in the AAC power rankings... They should just quit now.

TheLost

9/17/19 12:21pm

You just proved my point. Houston still has a shot at the Conference Champ, even

Klompus

9/17/19 1:23pm

I'd rather play and beat Tennessee and USC than not.

boscatar

9/17/19 12:26pm

We can still beat UW, UT, and USC as a MWC member

Backcountry

9/17/19 12:29pm

As an MWC or AAC member, we would play fewer than half of the fun opponents

boscatar

9/17/19 12:34pm

Sure. We would play 0-3 fewer P5s than we currebtly do. We would exchange that

Backcountry

9/17/19 12:39pm

I wouldn't oppose a move to the AAC with Boise and SDSU....

boscatar

9/17/19 12:57pm

I'm interested to see the season play out and how it affects recruiting.

boscatar

9/17/19 12:41pm

I care about the actual games more than any of the peripheral fluff

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