And yet you are okay withholding driving privileges until 16.

Sep 19, 2019
12:00:34am

StalwartBraveTrue All-American

You Don’t let them vote till 18. Yet we want to give them unfettered access to whole wide world of information at the age of 13? Makes no sense.

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If your kids have phones and data plans

Future_Tacos

9/18/19 9:34am

I just want to point out your kids can totally do all of this without a phone.

SandYFan

9/18/19 9:37am

Care to elaborate?

zerigke

9/18/19 9:41am

Kids can send nude pictures of themselves to others without a phone. Kids

SandYFan

9/18/19 9:43am

Just that a phone with Apps makes it way easier.

Turnpike Lane

9/18/19 9:47am

Maybe for sending photos, but the rest?

SandYFan

9/18/19 9:55am

Totally makes it easier and worse

LCcoug

9/18/19 11:01pm

Any WiFi enabled device; or they can borrow one from a friend.

El Fuego

9/18/19 9:58am

If kids go to that extent, unless you have them under constant video

Zedhead

9/18/19 9:39am

Teach them correct principles....and communicate as much as possible.

JohnnyC

9/18/19 9:45am

Uh, no. That's not "all" we can do.

Tortillero

9/18/19 10:39am

Depends on the kid.

rcbyufan

9/18/19 10:43am

"We see the undertow and we say...""There's the undertow! There's the undertow!"

zerigke

9/18/19 10:45am

I can’t accept that as a basis for not doing whatever you can

WizeGuise

9/18/19 9:48am

You can also not hand them a loaded gun when they don’t know how to properly use

Blue2thebone

9/19/19 1:16pm

There are some good apps that lock these out. I use ourpact and have had...

whiteninja

9/18/19 9:42am

don't blame technology... blame ignorance.

TheLost

9/18/19 9:44am

I believe that was my intended point. Why would anybody blame the phone?

Future_Tacos

9/18/19 9:46am

Happens all the time

supertux

9/18/19 10:08am

My father is in IT for his profession...he has no clue what the dumb stuff i did

JohnnyC

9/18/19 9:49am

You are very naive thinking those tools aren't circumvented.

j20

9/18/19 1:48pm

"Not that I think my boys are doing anything" - If you gave your kids unfiltered

WDaddy

9/18/19 9:49am

And even if you did put filters on, there ways around that as well.

JohnnyC

9/18/19 9:59am

Yep. I've tried every phone monitoring app out there. My 18 yr old son has found

WDaddy

9/18/19 10:00am

Kids really don't need data, but they get wifi everywhere so it almost doesn't

Baron

9/18/19 9:59am

We have fought what feels like a never-ending battle over this with our son.

Phasor

9/18/19 10:04am

You're not alone on this.

j20

9/18/19 1:51pm

Don’t get me wrong. The best medicine is a strong foundation of faith and a

StalwartBraveTrue

9/19/19 12:06am

Honestly, there is only so much we as parents can do

A_blue_car

9/18/19 10:17am

Its just like every other 'vice' (smoking, drinking, drugs, sex... etc)

TheLost

9/18/19 10:48am

Except ... you don't put the whiskey bottle in their hand, but the biggest

runnincoug

9/18/19 11:18am

Yet people have no problem giving teens a car... a device that can kill...

TheLost

9/18/19 11:29am

Driving is also not the same as social media

runnincoug

9/18/19 2:57pm

Everything you said is true... and proves my point..

TheLost

9/18/19 4:03pm

I've known many parents who take your approach and regret it, and the research

runnincoug

9/18/19 5:19pm

What ever works best for you... 👍 .. however it goes back to what i said before

TheLost

9/18/19 6:01pm

I'm well aware of the parental restrictions available and how flip phones

runnincoug

9/18/19 6:22pm

A whole generation is being devastated?

A_blue_car

9/18/19 9:59pm

anecdotes are of course not research evidence. Here's the research evidence.

runnincoug

9/18/19 10:53pm

Could some of these increases be because it’s more common to talk about

puntersarepeople

9/19/19 7:18am

Yes, but that doesn't seem to explain all the increase.

runnincoug

9/19/19 8:09am

but, but, but, without smart phones they'll miss out on ice cream parties!

Mitty

9/19/19 4:44pm

No need to give them a phone though. It’s not like they can’t learn to have one

puntersarepeople

9/18/19 9:46pm

You are a little outdated in that thinking... some kids NEED a smartphone..

TheLost

9/19/19 8:03am

I'll add health reasons to that list

A_blue_car

9/19/19 8:10am

I have two teenagers involved in HS sports/orchestra/theater without data plans

runnincoug

9/19/19 8:14am

You know WiFi is exactly the same as a 'data plan' right? its even worse...

TheLost

9/19/19 8:24am

Yes, I do research in media and psychology. I'm well aware of wifi's abilities

runnincoug

9/19/19 9:31am

Thanks for posting. As you said earlier, I wish I has waited to give my kids a

WDaddy

9/19/19 9:46am

RE: Yes, I do research in media and psychology. I'm well aware of wifi's

Phasor

9/19/19 10:45am

I think this is a very "real life" post that illustrates that it isn't as easy

A_blue_car

9/19/19 11:19am

Really good post... thank you.

runnincoug

9/19/19 11:44am

I don’t recommend going full Amish

puntersarepeople

9/19/19 3:53pm

I can't figure out why anyone gives young teens cell phones. Been

Mitty

9/18/19 9:13pm

My 14 year old nephew spent a week with us this summer.

Blue2thebone

9/18/19 11:12pm

So...everybody. Looks like you covered your bases well there.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/19/19 12:10am

And yet you are okay withholding driving privileges until 16.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/19/19 12:00am

A phone isn't a whiskey bottle

A_blue_car

9/18/19 11:46am

It's a whisky bar.

CougarMandias

9/19/19 5:25am

True but you don’t teach a kid about gun safety and then leave a loaded

StalwartBraveTrue

9/18/19 11:57pm

The hands in the air defeatist approach is just an excuse for lazy parenting.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/18/19 11:55pm

No twitter?

puntersarepeople

9/19/19 7:20am

Adults shouldn't even be on Twitter.

rcbyufan

9/19/19 7:30am

Haha!! It is an interesting app

puntersarepeople

9/19/19 1:08pm

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