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Sep 19, 2019
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Anyone a little perplexed on very little passes to Bushman the last two games?

idacoug

9/19/19 8:15am

He has been double teamed almost every play

Cougz19

9/19/19 8:16am

That’s why having MLP back is huge.

Niiineteeen84

9/19/19 8:35am

That's what happens when defenses key on him all game. Opens up everyone else

rggee

9/19/19 8:17am

On that big play against TN, there were 4-5 guys paying attention to Bushman..

Fdnman

9/19/19 8:17am

That is my point. If he is that good, you still throw to him.

idacoug

9/19/19 8:19am

I don't think you throw to him unless he's open. If he's getting double or triple-teamed, somebody else is open.

jdub

9/19/19 8:21am

did teams double team Collie, Kozlowski, etc? They still got the rock because

idacoug

9/19/19 8:29am

What part of "other people are open" are you missing here? Why try to force a play that has less of a chance of

jdub

9/19/19 8:32am

Nothing. I totally agree with it.

idacoug

9/19/19 8:35am

Sure about that?

Cougar TD

9/19/19 8:43am

UNITE MIGHTY ARM CHAIR COACHES

Hammer15

9/19/19 10:22am

If you have Collie AND Pitta, opposing team can't double-team them both.

frontrowcougar

9/19/19 10:46am

Somehow Pitta, Harline, and other great tight ends got their numbers, even

HenderCoug

9/19/19 9:44am

2008 was Pitta's best year. Who else was on that team on offense????

jdub

9/19/19 10:04am

I believe there were about 10 others, at any given time.

HenderCoug

9/19/19 10:07am

When your argument starts to look silly, go for snark.

jdub

9/19/19 10:08am

I didn't make an argument. I made an observation. The observation is true.

HenderCoug

9/19/19 10:18am

Your observation wasn't pointed? Give me a break. And, your observation neglected to mention key details

jdub

9/19/19 10:25am

You need a hug. I'm not trying to pick any fights. I just think it odd that

HenderCoug

9/19/19 12:10pm

Please identify the insults I used. Refuting your arguments (yes, arguments) is not an insult.

jdub

9/19/19 12:15pm

And, of the two of us, you are the only one who resorted to snark. You did it here again, with the "hug" comment.

jdub

9/19/19 12:16pm

That's the philosophy of the USC coach that cost him the game

BYUMizzou

9/19/19 8:23am

totally disagree. Maybe tennessee, but not USC.

idacoug

9/19/19 8:25am

Not USC what?

YIsForBrigham

9/19/19 8:31am

We didn't beat USC solely because they double teamed bushman all game.

idacoug

9/19/19 8:31am

Nowhere did he state we beat SC because they doubled Bushman.

fldnstrm

9/19/19 8:33am

really? He said it cost USC the game.

idacoug

9/19/19 8:36am

No he didn’t

YIsForBrigham

9/19/19 8:37am

Wow. I said the USC coach not using and leveraging an

BYUMizzou

9/19/19 8:40am

He's saying that throwing into coverage was why USC threw 3 picks

fattycoug

9/19/19 8:36am

got it.

idacoug

9/19/19 8:40am

You alright today? You seem slower than normal.

rggee

9/19/19 8:58am

It's completely true about USC. If you take the lost yardage from sacks out

BYUMizzou

9/19/19 8:35am

2 ints were early and the last one was on 3rd and medium

Cougforgood

9/19/19 8:53am

In the first half. In the second half USC went to the run quite a bit, but the difference was either the DL made a

Bert609

9/19/19 12:27pm

vs Utah, we stopped moss up until the last drive of the 1st half

Cougforgood

9/19/19 3:49pm

RE: That is my point. If he is that good, you still throw to him.

Mathew

9/19/19 8:24am

RE: That is my point. If he is that good, you still throw to him.

HuskerFan2

9/19/19 8:25am

Is that the attitude that Idaho football coaches took? That explains why they arent very good

monkeycowboy

9/19/19 8:28am

if you are a good enough receiver and your QB can get you the ball

idacoug

9/19/19 8:30am

*If you’re open

YIsForBrigham

9/19/19 8:31am

Milne wasn't open and Wilson got the ball to him for a td.

idacoug

9/19/19 8:33am

Umm.... he had separation when the ball came out. The DB closed after the ball was released.

Indy Coug

9/19/19 8:35am

The db defended that as well as anyone possibly could.

idacoug

9/19/19 8:38am

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Cougazul

9/19/19 8:41am

Yep. Perfect throw and perfect catch

Indy Coug

9/19/19 8:41am

And he didn't have bracketed coverage over the top.

sidsie716

9/19/19 8:44am

Interesting, because I would think the best someone could have defended it would

fldnstrm

9/19/19 9:08am

Oh yeah?! How about a pick 6?! I win!!!

mvtoro

9/19/19 9:17am

Milne was single covered, and was open initially just slightly. The defender made a good play, and almost got it.

jdub

9/19/19 8:37am

One-on-one

rggee

9/19/19 9:00am

Were you dropped on your head as a kid? Why is this concept so hard for you?

GigantorCat

9/19/19 8:45am

Seriously, you should let this one go. When you find yourself in a hole, stop

BYU I Bleed Blue

9/19/19 12:19pm

So you are saying even if Bushman is double or triple teamed,

Emmett Fitz-Hume

9/19/19 12:39pm

You don't throw into crazy coverage just because a receiver is good. They can't

fattycoug

9/19/19 8:31am

Lol. Good stuff coach!

Mr Bassman

9/19/19 8:48am

Thank goodness your not the coach

Adrielle

9/19/19 9:28am

You made the opposite point. If guys are keying on him that much

LifeLongLakerFan

9/19/19 10:00am

I don’t think Bushman is THAT good.

LoyaltotheRoyal

9/19/19 10:50am

If he is double and triple-covered you don't throw to him. That is why you

BYU I Bleed Blue

9/19/19 12:15pm

It's a bad point. Simon got the last catch because Bushman drew attention.

ochobeeguy

9/19/19 12:31pm

No. Zach is taking what the defense gives him.

monkeycowboy

9/19/19 8:18am

It’s been incredibly encouraging to see how ZW has responded. He’s very comfortable throwing it to the open guy

YIsForBrigham

9/19/19 8:29am

Did he really have 7 plays of 18+? Didn't Mangum go most of a season without

stoils

9/19/19 8:32am

Yes. A couple of those were running plays though. I'm referring to the entire offense here.

YIsForBrigham

9/19/19 8:34am

18 is a weird cut off. 20 is better

Mr Bassman

9/19/19 8:57am

Zach has 10 completions of 18 or more yards in 2019

Mr Bassman

9/19/19 8:59am

How many did he have in 2017, since you have the numbers available to you

stoils

9/19/19 9:09am

18 in 2017

Mr Bassman

9/19/19 9:21am

Great data — thanks for collecting, analyzing and sharing!

ColoSpgs

9/19/19 9:49am

No problem! Always glad to provide some stats

Mr Bassman

9/19/19 12:40pm

Maybe it was 25+ yards

stoils

9/19/19 9:54am

Here are 25+ yard passes since 2005

Mr Bassman

9/19/19 10:13am

It was 30+ yards and it was only the 1st 3 games or so before he got 1.

rggee

9/19/19 10:38am

You got him on your fantasy team or something?

AD4

9/19/19 8:34am

Ive never played fantasy football ever.

idacoug

9/19/19 8:37am

Yeah if you watch the games again, he's literally being doubled on every play.

macdizzle

9/19/19 8:45am

And because USC got burned doing that, guess what Washington is going to do.

Throwaway59840

9/19/19 10:07am

Nope. He has been well covered leaving others more open.

BYUtka

9/19/19 9:02am

I still think there are opportunities to get him the ball though. One target per

BlueForLife

9/19/19 10:15am

Hans talked about it a lot yesterday but i think it's been covered in the thread

yahtzee

9/19/19 10:47am

Double teamed, but opening up things for our WR's and backs so its not a bad

Tuskaloosa Cougar

9/19/19 10:49am

It's simple. He's getting bracketed on most every play. The end.

RockyBalboa

9/19/19 10:59am

But he asked if anyone is perplexed why. The answer is no.

ochobeeguy

9/19/19 1:02pm

If the BYU Offense was killing them everywhere else

Reedme

9/19/19 11:38am

They have been weapons. They drew away the defense opening up the receivers.

Coug Man in Florida

9/19/19 12:02pm

I'm all about mixing it up. Spread it out. Will get him more touches in the end.

Heath Squashwell

9/19/19 12:07pm

Things will open up for him more as teams are realizing that they can't bracket him like other teams have because that

cheezedawg

9/19/19 12:10pm

I would be concerned if Bushman wasn't being bracketed on nearly every play, and

Emmett Fitz-Hume

9/19/19 12:44pm

Teams should start loosening up on him the more our other receivers make big plays. He's still our best target.

Bluedarts

9/19/19 1:58pm

Nope. He's not physical enough to fight through contact when doubled.

jsjohnson1278

9/19/19 3:03pm

Yeah, I was wondering why he and Zach where only a foot apart on those

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