2018 Vandy = $43.7M 2018 Kansas = $38.8m 2018 Rutgers = $54m (TV money only) EDIT: meant 2018

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Oct 23, 2019
3:33:06pm

TheLoneCougar Wunderli's bully

2018 Vandy = $43.7M 2018 Kansas = $38.8m 2018 Rutgers = $54m (TV money only) EDIT: meant 2018

The SEC has record revenue in 2018, but Big Ten schools rake in more per-school distribution

SEC tax records show a conference record of $660 million in revenue for fiscal 2018, but reports from Big Ten schools show greater revenue distribution.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2019/02/01/sec-passed-big-ten-per-school-distribution-after-record-revenue/2743885002/

Picture of stability? Big 12 members have plenty of reasons to be happy as revenue payouts increase from last season

IRVING -- As always this time of year when there isn't headline-spawning controversy, the Big 12's bottom line finds a way to make news.The success...

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/2019/05/31/picture-of-stability-big-12-members-have-plenty-of-reasons-to-be-happy-as-revenue-payouts-increase-from-last-season/

Big Ten Conference had nearly $759 million in revenue in fiscal 2018, new records show

Big Ten tops SEC by $100 million; commissioner Jim Delany credited with $5.5 million in compensation as payouts begin from $20 million-plus bonus plan.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2019/05/15/big-ten-revenue-hit-nearly-759-million-fiscal-2018/3686089002/

That is just TV money, if you want to start adding in tickets, concessions, merchandise, and all other things that generate money...

BYU's meager $6-8M annually doesn't come near a single P5 school. I don't think our tickets, concession, and merch come close to their TV payouts let along putting on us par with "some" P5 schools.

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BYU fans: Independence is killing BYU - we need the MWC. Also BYU fans: We don't

10/23/19 3:04pm

It's almost like different fans believe different things.

SandYFan

10/23/19 3:06pm

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JimmyZ

10/23/19 3:10pm

I guess my point is that the fans who want the MWC never explain how BYU would

10/23/19 3:13pm

Resources aren't why we struggle against G5 teams.

10/23/19 3:17pm

Yes, I'm sure other MWC teams would love to give BYU extra money. Hahaha.

10/23/19 3:20pm

Extra money to BYU but would be extra money for the other schools and conference too.

10/23/19 3:25pm

BSU's extra money comes at the cost of the rest of the schools. They hate it.

10/23/19 3:37pm

Well I would agree with the other schools if that is the case. Bad contract.

10/23/19 4:21pm

8-9 wins and top 40 finishes were crap a few years ago. Now with more resources

Mr. Scoobs

10/23/19 3:06pm

BYU is not close to on par with P5 teams in terms of $$$ or recruiting.

Klompus

10/23/19 3:11pm

Actually they are, and they'll be closer with the new TV deal. I'm not referring

10/23/19 3:18pm

Utah spends way more money on recruiting then we do.

10/23/19 3:25pm

That's a budgeting issue, not a revenue issue.

10/23/19 3:37pm

Very correct

Yohy

10/23/19 3:49pm

They spend more than ANY PAC 12 school.

10/23/19 4:17pm

Correct

10/23/19 4:21pm

Not. Even. Close.

The Dude Abides

10/23/19 4:46pm

Utah made 82 million in revenue, BYU made 79 million...

Coug Man in Florida

10/23/19 6:18pm

Where are you getting those revenue numbers? Does it include booster donations?

The Dude Abides

10/23/19 6:27pm

I thought our revenue doesn’t go back into sports.

10/23/19 6:54pm

Actually looks like someone has posted a link already below

Coug Man in Florida

10/24/19 3:02pm

On par with other P5 programs?

10/23/19 3:14pm

I said "SOME" P5 Programs.

10/23/19 3:19pm

Name some.

10/23/19 3:26pm

Vanderbilt and Kansas

10/23/19 3:27pm

Rutgers

TBabyCougs

10/23/19 3:28pm

Oregon st

10/23/19 3:29pm

Purdue

TBabyCougs

10/23/19 3:34pm

Same as Rutgers below.

10/23/19 3:35pm

$31.3M in TV money payout.

10/23/19 3:34pm

2018 Vandy = $43.7M 2018 Kansas = $38.8m 2018 Rutgers = $54m (TV money only) EDIT: meant 2018

10/23/19 3:33pm

BYU is not on par with that financially

BlueK

10/23/19 3:34pm

That's television money. BYU's total revenue looks like a lower-level P5 program

Doogal McCougar

10/23/19 4:04pm

That is not even remotely close to accurate.

10/23/19 4:20pm

Here's the source for the data:

Doogal McCougar

10/23/19 5:20pm

Good link. Thanks

TBabyCougs

10/23/19 5:28pm

Alright, so I am certainly not a genius here so please correct me where I am wrong.

10/23/19 6:54pm

The BYU AD makes the vast majority of its money because of football

Doogal McCougar

10/24/19 12:47pm

Geez. They are rolling in the doh.

10/23/19 3:36pm

Thus my point... we are nowhere near "par" with ANY P5 program.

10/23/19 3:37pm

I'm guessing you don't spend much time around lower end P5 programs.

10/23/19 3:39pm

the fact we're better managed is a separate thing

BlueK

10/23/19 3:39pm

What?

10/23/19 3:46pm

I agree with you. We aren’t on par at all

10/23/19 3:39pm

The truth is that there are 3 tiers. We are solidly in tier 2 along with some of

10/23/19 3:43pm

That isn't what you said in your OP.

10/23/19 3:46pm

Wazzou

10/23/19 4:17pm

PAC12 school, $31.3M TV money alone.

10/23/19 4:20pm

And yet we have more revenue.

10/23/19 6:44pm

Huh? Your link didn't work...

10/23/19 6:56pm

Actually, we do report it.

10/23/19 7:29pm

That doesn't say, "According to BYU, the athletic department..."

10/24/19 9:09am

Problem is were financially in the middle between G5 and P5

mudpupper

10/23/19 3:17pm

My guess is that schools like Texas and Ohio State will get tired of subsidizing

10/23/19 3:23pm

Not true. BYU makes more money than a decent chunk of P5 programs

Doogal McCougar

10/23/19 4:17pm

And so does this fan.

10/23/19 8:15pm

It’s because fans think tv contracts and resources makes you better

USMCdad

10/23/19 3:33pm

"You tend to win more games when you know your opponents." How does that math

10/23/19 3:40pm

Compare the record vs MWC and WAC members be G5 since Indy

USMCdad

10/23/19 3:42pm

Wouldn't it be an equal advantage for the other team as well?

10/23/19 3:45pm

yes if all other things are equal, but like we saw in mwc and wac

USMCdad

10/23/19 3:57pm

RE: yes if all other things are equal, but like we saw in mwc and wac

10/23/19 9:55pm

I think you have an excellent point. I think the front loading hurts even more

Yohy

10/23/19 4:01pm

Yet CB complains that we should pay more to get better coaches

baldcoug74

10/23/19 6:14pm

It’s more of how those resources such as the revenue are dispersed. They made

Coug Man in Florida

10/23/19 3:55pm

One of the worst posts I have ever read.

allwhitejerseys

10/23/19 3:56pm

It doesn't have to be the MWC. Work with BSU to create a new conference

mandalorian

10/23/19 4:08pm

I keep hearing this but why when the MWC already exists?

USMCdad

10/23/19 4:12pm

B/C the MWC screwed BYU. Bad blood.

mandalorian

10/23/19 4:13pm

Wouldn't teams have to pay a penalty to leave their conferences.

baldcoug74

10/23/19 6:16pm

Bad losses are killing us, not independence

qom

10/23/19 6:12pm

I'm in favor of independence. I do think we need to mix in an FCS school early

10/23/19 6:52pm

What is so great about the MWC?

TrueBlue67

10/23/19 6:14pm

BSU and we already play them

qom

10/23/19 6:23pm

Nothing. That was my point.

10/23/19 6:53pm

NY6 access, G5 status again, and renewed rivalries

USMCdad

10/23/19 7:39pm

So you want G5 status?

The Dude Abides

10/23/19 7:40pm

Yeah i think getting back to that would be great for the program

USMCdad

10/23/19 9:24pm

This is amazing.

LiveCoug

10/23/19 9:31pm

I know right, but I think we are back and ready to compete with Boise and USU

USMCdad

10/23/19 9:50pm

Here’s what I don’t understand. How is it we improve by being G5? Do you think

The Dude Abides

10/23/19 9:55pm

You know what? Never mind. I’m seeing some of your posts in this

The Dude Abides

10/23/19 9:57pm

We really are and that’s fine with me. I’m stuck in the 80’s, 90’s and 00’s

USMCdad

10/23/19 10:04pm

Go back and look at the talent we had during the WAC and MWC

USMCdad

10/23/19 10:01pm

I get the feeling that this website might blow your mind:

10/23/19 10:52pm

Haha yeah so true, I’m sure it’s just a coincidence, all is well

USMCdad

10/24/19 7:53am

I agree the program has regressed, but it has nothing to do with Indy vs. MWC.

10/24/19 10:40am

I get that, but I see Utah State and they haven’t regressed like we have

USMCdad

10/24/19 10:46am

Causation ≠ correlation. A return to the MWC would likely make things worse.

10/24/19 11:00am

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