Actually, there's very solid data that mid-level providers refer more than physicians

Jan 20, 2020
10:51:17am

SJS Shaky place kicker

It delays and fragmentalizes care. It's not a good thing. That's why I oppose (from the state level) unsupervised access to mid-level providers. Including PTs.

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Both my MCLs are damaged. Not bad, but I can’t run without soreness. Need help.

brazilcoug

1/18/20 10:41pm

Have you seen an orthopedic surgeon or had an MRI?

Hank Rearden

1/18/20 10:42pm

No. Do I need to?

brazilcoug

1/18/20 10:44pm

Only way I feel the pain is if I run for more than 5 minutes.

brazilcoug

1/18/20 10:45pm

Run for 4:59

TerribleOpinionsGuy

1/18/20 10:50pm

I want to be able to run for over an hour like I was doing before multiple

brazilcoug

1/18/20 10:51pm

run 4:59. walk 1:01. run 4:59. walk 1:01. run 4:59 etc

BlueFrog

1/18/20 10:52pm

After 5 minutes of running the soreness is there for a couple of days.

brazilcoug

1/18/20 10:54pm

Wow. My MCLs are fine, and I'm in pain LONG before 5 minutes into a run.

LeftOfNormal

1/19/20 9:13am

I heard night veggies are great for ligament recovery

DKN

1/18/20 10:43pm

Dude has two bad MCL's. Not the time to pile on.

777

1/18/20 10:57pm

Eating veggies is probably better for him than running right now.

Malathion

1/18/20 11:49pm

I am sure there’s an essential oil for that

cougarfann888

1/18/20 10:44pm

First question you need to answer is how did you damage them. Then you need to

WDaddy

1/18/20 10:47pm

I honestly have no idea. My only thought is that I got adjusted a couple of

brazilcoug

1/18/20 10:49pm

mcls are usually not injured that way. I’d go see a medical doctor.

BNcoug

1/18/20 10:59pm

You went to a chiro?! That was your first mistake.

Cheesy Gordita

1/19/20 12:43am

PT first, if that doesn’t help see and an orthopedic surgeon for imaging,

akmewg

1/18/20 10:48pm

Phoenix.

brazilcoug

1/18/20 10:49pm

When I did mine they recommended surgery

OU Cougar

1/18/20 10:56pm

Did PT help you?

brazilcoug

1/18/20 11:00pm

Yes but it was 3 visits at 100 per

OU Cougar

1/18/20 11:19pm

How do you know it’s not meniscus damage?

Cougarclaw

1/18/20 11:05pm

It could be I guess.

brazilcoug

1/18/20 11:11pm

IAMAD but this is much more likely

shimmy

1/18/20 11:16pm

Just curious, if it is inner meniscus damage, what is the fix?

brazilcoug

1/18/20 11:19pm

Depends on severity. If it’s partial tear you’d start with anti inflammatories and PT/exercises

sgriff

1/18/20 11:42pm

Your diagnosis is wrong. Both MCLs are "damaged", but you've never had an

bocadillotortuga

1/18/20 11:06pm

Definitely my right MCL is worse. Left one started coming on a couple of

brazilcoug

1/18/20 11:10pm

You don't need surgery for an MCL injury, unless it is substantially torn.

bocadillotortuga

1/18/20 11:14pm

You’re right. I should just say “inner knee area” instead of MCL because I

brazilcoug

1/18/20 11:16pm

I work in an orthopedics office. Get an appointment with an ortho guy and get a real diagnosis. If they seem to rush to

sgriff

1/18/20 11:13pm

Nah, don’t go see a doctor, just set up a CB poll. Majority wins!

Cougarclaw

1/19/20 1:08am

Both of your knees would have to had bent significantly inwards to tear anything

ToasterChive

1/18/20 11:17pm

Would be better to interview and examine you but I highly doubt this is MCLs

Medute

1/19/20 5:48am

How’s your running form? I just finished born to run and they talk about people

ChiCityCoug

1/19/20 8:42am

I don’t know, who would I ask? I’ve had IT Band Syndrome for years because

brazilcoug

1/19/20 8:46am

I’m not a PT or running expert but I know you can get

ChiCityCoug

1/19/20 9:27am

If you have IT band issues and knee problems I'd wager your form is off and that you aren't as strong as you should be

monkeycowboy

1/19/20 9:32am

I’d recommend you find a PT who does running analysis, and you

akmewg

1/19/20 2:57pm

Had no idea you were an orthopedist too! Amazing

Turnpike Lane

1/19/20 10:11am

Just wanted to give some information for those posting RE: PT

akmewg

1/19/20 4:06pm

Why settle for second best. Go to an orthopedic.

WDaddy

1/19/20 4:12pm

We actually studied this at our hospital a couple of years back

Medute

1/19/20 7:47pm

I’m not sure why referral rate was looked at as bad thing?

akmewg

1/19/20 9:18pm

It means that 50% of the time they ended up sending to someone else

Medute

1/20/20 2:59am

Actually, there's very solid data that mid-level providers refer more than physicians

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