I suspect it's also a problem because the players don't have a safety valve

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Feb 13, 2020
5:47:45pm

Archaea All-American

of someone to call to avoid DUIs.

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Archaea

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Messages

Author

Time

DUI

Viking

2/13/20 10:32am

I'm sure he'll get a year out of football, but not expelled. Same as Pau'u.

Turnpike Lane

2/13/20 10:36am

Quick Question: Do you work in the Honor Code office?

Pete

2/13/20 10:36am

Expulsion? Nah. Stupid? Yes. He deserves forgiveness

Jericho

2/13/20 10:36am

Everyone deserves forgiveness

BigYfan

2/13/20 10:50am

Please. There are a myriad of financial and legal implications already

Jericho

2/13/20 10:54am

attending BYU is a privelage, not a right...

BigYfan

2/13/20 11:06am

A DUI is not the pinnacle of satanic behavior.

Jericho

2/13/20 11:08am

Oh my good heck who said it was satanic?

BigYfan

2/13/20 11:25am

And very illegal along with the other charges. Not just an HC issue.

Soupie

2/13/20 11:26am

Do you know how many great kids get denied entry to BYU that have not broken

777

2/13/20 11:49am

It's a fair point not talked about much here.

Soupie

2/13/20 11:59am

Shouldn’t be. First offense. He’s a kid

Jericho

2/13/20 11:35am

No, he is not a kid. He's an adult.

Bossk82

2/13/20 11:36am

Legally, but human brains arent fully developed at his age

Jericho

2/13/20 11:40am

And some adults apparently never fully develop their brain

GigantorCat

2/13/20 1:17pm

I’m sure you’re a real hit at parties...

Jericho

2/13/20 1:18pm

I'm sure you're never invited to parties, so it works out for everyone here

GigantorCat

2/13/20 1:25pm

NICE BURN GIGANTERCAT! YOU GOT HIM TWICE!!!!

crazY

2/13/20 1:30pm

Actually, I was.

FatherOFive

2/13/20 1:56pm

Dont make excuses for a grown-yass man. Thats called enabling.

Backcountry

2/13/20 12:08pm

So drinking coffee or growing your mustasche below your lips deserves

pappabear246

2/13/20 3:55pm

Are you really not able to see the difference between something that kills peopl

BigYfan

2/13/20 7:21pm

Who died?

Jericho

2/13/20 7:22pm

A car full of my friends is who died

BigYfan

2/13/20 8:46pm

Chaz Ah You killed your friends?

Jericho

2/13/20 9:44pm

You have issues

BigYfan

2/13/20 10:16pm

You’re the one who wants to crucify a young man for one mistake

Jericho

2/13/20 11:17pm

Your exact words were

pappabear246

2/13/20 8:51pm

Just because one has power to do something doesn't mean one should

Archaea

2/13/20 4:20pm

This is why people have such a distaste for BYU and their fans

jpal1397

2/13/20 11:16am

RE: This is why people have such a distaste for BYU and their fans

Piniq

2/13/20 12:39pm

You didn’t read my post very well. Actually jumped to conclusions and condemned

jpal1397

2/13/20 1:33pm

To answer one question.

FatherOFive

2/13/20 1:57pm

Breathalyzers need sun or warmth to work? I was told Sunday wasn't bad weather

jpal1397

2/13/20 2:14pm

All good questions.

FatherOFive

2/14/20 8:22am

Take his license away and suspend him from football. No need to try and take

davidmj10

2/13/20 12:56pm

RE: Take his license away and suspend him from football. No need to try and take

davidmj10

2/13/20 12:58pm

Wasn't there something about leaving the 99 to find the 1

BYU71

2/13/20 10:38am

Here you go....

StarMan

2/13/20 10:41am

RE: DUI

letthewookieewin

2/13/20 10:47am

Not a lot of value in kicking someone out mid semester.

byubyu

2/13/20 10:49am

I love the amount of non mercy we members of the church give others.

Adwight

2/13/20 10:52am

Mercy needs to be tempered by the Law.

FatherOFive

2/13/20 2:02pm

The Lord offers us much more mercy than “Automatic Expulsion! No exceptions!”

Adwight

2/13/20 3:48pm

so to you the atonement means no consequences?

BigYfan

2/13/20 7:23pm

Lol. Did I ever say that? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Adwight

2/13/20 9:51pm

That is what most Christians believe these days

South_A

2/14/20 6:57am

Did I say Automatic Expulsions?

FatherOFive

2/14/20 8:28am

DUI results in death of an innocent = Expulsion

BlueVU

2/13/20 11:10am

People make mistakes.

cheezedawg

2/13/20 11:25am

And people are held accountable for them. We can be there to help them get through it but they still have to go

Soupie

2/13/20 11:29am

RE: And people are held accountable for them. We can be there to help them get through it but they still have to go

cheezedawg

2/13/20 11:34am

He can be held accountable and have to pay the price but it doesn’t need to be

Coug Man in Florida

2/13/20 12:33pm

Soupie

2/13/20 12:48pm

To be fair, you seem to have extrapolated specifics not in my post when you replied 🙂

cheezedawg

2/13/20 12:49pm

You gave plenty of specifics. No extrapolation necessary.

Soupie

2/13/20 12:52pm

Ah ha. Yes, I did but it's been a common refrain. Was initially thinking you were Coug Man saying this. Sorry.

Soupie

2/13/20 1:24pm

🙂 No worries

cheezedawg

2/13/20 2:08pm

I should clarify, I’m not saying this as a direct response to your comment.

Coug Man in Florida

2/13/20 12:59pm

Van Noy was the perfect example of this.

FatherOFive

2/13/20 2:06pm

And Jamaal. Both are among BYU's biggest alum supporters.

Soupie

2/13/20 2:07pm

I wouldn't expel him from school.

kahuna

2/13/20 6:20pm

Whatever they made Pau'u do they should hold Chaz to same standard

jpal1397

2/13/20 6:26pm

The Courts will hold him accountable. Why do we need to do more?

Archaea

2/13/20 4:21pm

Did I suggest a specific punishment? I do think you need to have consistency and you need to make sure there's

Soupie

2/13/20 10:23pm

We need bureaucratic identical punishment. Got it

Archaea

2/13/20 10:51pm

You're right. Make it so guys have no idea whether there will be a consequence or not. Since Paau

Soupie

2/13/20 11:00pm

Not the ones in glass houses throwing stones.

Archaea

2/13/20 4:21pm

A third of traffic-related deaths in the US involve an impaired driver

cougargollum

2/13/20 12:52pm

This is exactly what I was thinking. A friend of mine is now a single dad due to

Judge Judy

2/13/20 7:05pm

Just like what the Savior would do.... Glad this is his University

Bleeding Blue

2/13/20 12:57pm

Thankfully you weren't my bishop when I was younger, for a myriad of reasons.

BYU I Bleed Blue

2/13/20 1:24pm

Difference is your ward didn’t reject thousands of others so you could be in it

22jrob22

2/13/20 2:21pm

Depends on how good they are. If they're good, community service and extra strength and conditioning.

Zach Morris

2/13/20 1:47pm

All players are equal. But some are more equal than others.

Adwight

2/13/20 3:48pm

Who got a DUI?

South_A

2/13/20 3:38pm

This is a team leadership problem. Players on the team know what other players

blackshirts

2/13/20 4:45pm

Soap party....

BYU Grounds

2/13/20 5:03pm

The Scarlet Letters

PJMort

2/13/20 5:00pm

Is the program and CB in denial that’s its pattern and culture? 4 years

Gerald-DeGroot

2/13/20 5:36pm

I suspect it's also a problem because the players don't have a safety valve

Archaea

2/13/20 5:47pm

Reallly hope that’s not the case. You probably right tho.

Gerald-DeGroot

2/13/20 6:02pm

It happens everywhere. I doubt it's a BYU thing.

Belboz

2/15/20 1:06pm

4 years straight of RMs getting DUI’s happens everywhere?

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