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Feb 18, 2020
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jdub
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That's a really bad attempt at justification, and your guarantee isn't worth anything
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Imagine trying to hit one of these pitches without knowing what was coming
Medute
2/18/20 7:21am
But everybody steals signs. Did the Astros go too far? Yes. But to think that
rggee
2/18/20 7:23am
So the Astros went too far and cheated to win a WS
Medute
2/18/20 7:26am
Correct. The Red Sox also cheated and are being investigated.
TCuz
2/18/20 7:29am
I guarantee the Yankees did too. Just ask Carlos Beltran.
rggee
2/18/20 7:33am
"The report noted that the Yankees had been using their video replay room to
rggee
2/18/20 7:37am
Fan of cheating team tries to sling dirt at others to downplay cheating. Nah.
TCuz
2/18/20 7:38am
To think this was isolated to 1 or 2 teams is simply naive. I'm sure at least
rggee
2/18/20 7:40am
I’m sure all the fans of cheating teams will tell themselves that.
TCuz
2/18/20 7:46am
That's a really bad attempt at justification, and your guarantee isn't worth anything
jdub
2/18/20 7:48am
I'm not justifying it. It crossed the line 100% and needs to stop.
rggee
2/18/20 8:20am
RE: To think this was isolated to 1 or 2 teams is simply naive. I'm sure at
COACHdrn
2/18/20 8:33am
You can "thumbs down" me all you want. That doesn't change the fact that it's...
COACHdrn
2/18/20 8:58am
Astros are the only ones who
memento
2/18/20 7:41am
Have you seen the reaction of just about every other team about the ...
COACHdrn
2/18/20 8:10am
If everyone is doing it, how are the Astros the only team to go from worst
AZ Coug
2/18/20 10:40pm
The same crappy lineup? Huh?
Scratch
2/18/20 10:54pm
Blind Hate
GulfCoastcoug
2/19/20 7:57am
Yep. So the cheating didn't help them, right?
AZ Coug
2/19/20 5:32pm
Where are you getting this 3 years concept
GulfCoastcoug
2/20/20 10:58pm
There are obvious reason to believe it's been 3 years (or more) and frankly,...
COACHdrn
2/21/20 12:23am
So be it
GulfCoastcoug
2/21/20 7:21am
Do the stats support your claim?
Baron
2/18/20 7:24am
5 players' postseason stats from 2017
Medute
2/18/20 7:30am
And? What are their historical splits? Other teams splits?
Baron
2/18/20 7:31am
They were doing it at home and on the road. Sample sizes that small are almost
Scratch
2/18/20 7:46am
Not being provocative, really! What pitch is each of those supposed to depict?
StarMan
2/18/20 7:34am
WOW, I just came up with a good punishment for the Astros batters....
StarMan
2/18/20 7:36am
Not sure how or why anyone couldn’t easily understand how big of a deal and
Gerald-DeGroot
2/18/20 7:37am
Come on- for professionals it’s a huge deal. For 95% of us we could know 100%
SouthernBlueBlood
2/18/20 7:44am
Now imagine trying to hit one of those pitches when you’re pretty sure a
Scratch
2/18/20 7:52am
Other than helping them win the WS you mean.
jdub
2/18/20 8:00am
Except we don’t actually know if it helped them win the WS. We know that they
Scratch
2/18/20 8:05am
So the punishment should be lighter
memento
2/18/20 8:19am
Nope, never said that. I'm only addressing the argument that it provided some
Scratch
2/18/20 8:35am
If it didn’t provide a benefit they would have stopped
memento
2/18/20 9:03am
They did stop. And the evidence shows that it did not really help.
Scratch
2/18/20 9:11am
Except they used it in the playoffs, so clearly they thought
memento
2/18/20 10:21am
READ MY POSTS, I NEVER SAID IT WASN'T BAD. I SAID IT WAS BAD AND THEY SHOULD BE
Scratch
2/18/20 10:24am
YELLING WORKS!
memento
2/18/20 10:45am
Not yelling wasn’t working. The efficacy of the cheating should have no bearing
Scratch
2/18/20 10:47am
But P.S. the opposite is also true; people can’t argue that the punishment
Scratch
2/18/20 10:52am
The punishment is light no matter what.
memento
2/18/20 1:26pm
And P.S., at the time of the 2017 playiffs they obviously believed it was worth
Scratch
2/18/20 10:25am
You have evidence they stopped?
Colorado
2/18/20 11:13am
Yep. That's what everyone said and that MLB's investigation agreed.
Scratch
2/18/20 11:24am
MLB only said they didn't find evidence. It may be conspiratorial, but the
Colorado
2/18/20 2:16pm
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