third row. But for my vehicle i need to commute a couple times a week and i decided against third row to save on gas mileage and increase rear cargo space for backpacking and camping with my boys. But i can't fit my entire family in my santa fe and i think that may have been a mistake on my part. Even though 90 percent of the time its just my get to work car. If the van goes down or is in the shop it would have been nice to have the other car big enough to fit everyone. But it just didn't seem 100% necessary to me at the time. So i'm realizing my family vehicle needs to be able to support all of our family sporting needs and goals. And i'm becoming more intrigued by the idea of towing a couple jet skis/wave runners. I'm seeing that may still be a possibility with minivans with tow packages. Makes for a hard decision. I'm kind of intrigued by an awd sienna with tow package but i wonder if i should go for some sort of suburban instead.