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You are 100% correct.
That team was nasty. They were good enough to beat anyone in the country.
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I've always thought the 1996 team was the best BYU has ever had.
BlueLine
11/30/20 10:52pm
A prominent player on the 1996 team is a friend of mine. Paraphrasing, he has said that that team was 1 or 2 players
pt crasher
11/30/20 10:57pm
IMO, there’s a case for that. There’s also a case that the ‘84 team was better.
gwalker
11/30/20 11:01pm
Yep! In fairness the '82-'85 rosters sent 27 players to the NFL, CFL and USFL.
LEDSFW
11/30/20 11:28pm
I honestly believe the 85 team was even better
BigYfan
11/30/20 11:33pm
In `85 Bosco had the bad shoulder and comparatively spaghetti arm
HootnHoller
12/1/20 12:12am
Yep, the 1985 team was 3 bad bounces away from repeating at national champs
The Chelsea Dagger
12/1/20 1:50am
the difference was a pick 6 in each of the 3 games as I recall.
towerman
12/1/20 7:21am
Yes
BigYfan
12/1/20 11:14am
They also lost to UTEP, UTEP's only win of the season.
Marking Time
12/1/20 10:51am
If healthy 1985 was the better team- he were snake bit
1984coug
11/30/20 11:39pm
That 85 team flew around on defense
BigYfan
12/1/20 11:18am
Kelly Smith
1984coug
12/1/20 12:12pm
Exactly, he was so good too.
BigYfan
12/1/20 1:23pm
No offense, but that means nothing.
The Y's Insider
11/30/20 11:01pm
No offense taken. Saw a post about the 1996 team and was reminded of my friend's comment.
pt crasher
11/30/20 11:24pm
They beat UW that year and they might just win the NC. I mean, after BYU lost to UW, it took them 7 weeks to get back up
unctoothman
11/30/20 11:22pm
Horse should have tackled better, it could have defeated UW. Didn't!
LEDSFW
11/30/20 11:27pm
They were Corey Dillon choosing UW over BYU away from going undefeated.
Belboz
12/1/20 8:21am
Why would it take one or two more players to win that one game against UW?
Lip Gallagher
12/1/20 9:58am
UW went away from Rashaan Shehee in the second half in favor of Corey Dillon
Belboz
12/1/20 11:22am
I actually thought Dillon might go to BYU.
Jeffacka
12/1/20 12:10pm
me too
Belboz
12/1/20 12:28pm
So how was byu 1 or 2 guys away from undefeated?
Lip Gallagher
12/1/20 12:45pm
Corey Dillon made a huge difference for UW.
Belboz
12/1/20 1:19pm
Nope. But they were pretty good.
Zaphod
11/30/20 10:57pm
I’d agree with that but may be nostalgia talking.
Soupie
11/30/20 10:57pm
I respect your right to be wrong.
CougarThug
11/30/20 11:09pm
I'm not sure this year is better than 2006 to be honest, but I think 2006 is
cougaman
11/30/20 11:15pm
That Arizona loss really tarnished that team.
WP17
12/1/20 12:26am
PAC10 Refs took it to us that game
BlueLine
12/1/20 8:10am
I think the 1985 team was the best when healthy
TomPetty
11/30/20 11:21pm
A lot of injuries w/ Bosco being biggest.
Soupie
11/30/20 11:22pm
Position group battles 1984 v. 1996 v. 2020
arizonacougarfan
11/30/20 11:29pm
This is accurate
BYJung
11/30/20 11:34pm
1984 RBs are better than 2020, 1984 OL was the best- we had 5 others
1984coug
11/30/20 11:42pm
How is the 84 RB group better?
Lip Gallagher
12/1/20 10:12am
Smith and heimuli were better than 2020s RBs
1984coug
12/1/20 12:13pm
Meh. Heimuli seems average. What was incredible about him?
Lip Gallagher
12/1/20 3:21pm
2020 team sucks.
OPINIONS
11/30/20 11:46pm
GREAT analysis--looks like '96 (but would have to go with Lee Johnson punting).
HootnHoller
12/1/20 12:16am
what happens when you weight each category, and also include coaching as a facto
Hntrguy
12/1/20 12:23am
I’d put the 96 WR group ahead of the current one if only for their depth.
The Chelsea Dagger
12/1/20 2:00am
96 WR group is definitely the best imo.
spugeddy24
12/1/20 2:06am
You'd swap Romney & Milne w KO & Mcguirre, huh? No way would I.
SinkingQuffa
12/1/20 2:22am
Very few would. Receivers were not the highlight of the '96 team.
Jeffacka
12/1/20 7:24am
Kaipo made an active NFL roster, KO a practice squad
stansburycoug
12/1/20 10:25am
RE: Kaipo made an active NFL roster, KO a practice squad
Lip Gallagher
12/1/20 10:45am
Maguire finally got his legs straight while running and became very, very fast.
Belboz
12/1/20 1:30pm
Different NFL then. KO & Kaipo were good
SinkingQuffa
12/1/20 1:59pm
Romney can't even score (kidding). But yes, I would
spugeddy24
12/1/20 5:49pm
Would you also swap Michael Jordan for Ron Harper?
Jeffacka
12/1/20 5:55pm
I can't tell if you're serious? They were good, not great though.
Jeffacka
12/1/20 7:24am
no. 1996 receivers weren't close to the best unless you include Mili and Lewis
Belboz
12/1/20 8:22am
Don't think it's as big a stretch as most think
stansburycoug
12/1/20 10:14am
I'd take Romney over any receiver on that 1996 team.
Jeffacka
12/1/20 10:17am
I might, but not the collective
stansburycoug
12/1/20 11:56am
I'm not seeing it.
Jeffacka
12/1/20 12:19pm
You didn't like Dye or Cahoon?
stansburycoug
12/1/20 1:22pm
Sure, but their impact as WRs was minimal. Neither had many catches that year.
Jeffacka
12/1/20 1:24pm
I'd much rather have Pau'u going over the middle than Kaipo.
SinkingQuffa
12/1/20 3:03pm
Pau'u has too many drops for my liking.
spugeddy24
12/1/20 5:51pm
This is a bad take
stansburycoug
12/1/20 6:12pm
Still not sure why Dye didn't stick in the NFL. He was a phenom as a returner
HootnHoller
12/1/20 10:36am
No surprise at all. He was puny. Incredible athlete, though. All 155 of him.
SinkingQuffa
12/1/20 3:24pm
I tend to group WR and TE as the receiving corps.
spugeddy24
12/1/20 5:50pm
Wilson > Sark > Bosco; '84 DL > 2020 DL > '96 DL
SinkingQuffa
12/1/20 2:14am
IMO Bosco doesn't even compare with Wilson
jellyfish
12/1/20 11:15am
Bosco was really tough & competitive
SinkingQuffa
12/1/20 4:34pm
You realize Kyle Morrell was 1st Team All-American?
Y05
12/1/20 4:27am
The only group you are wrong on is QB. Wilson is THAT good and is the reason BYU
idacoug
12/1/20 6:10am
Lee Johnson wasn't the best kicker
donnerstag
12/1/20 7:16am
Offense: 2020, Defense: 2020
Hill4Heisman
12/1/20 9:51am
Feel like Wilson is having one of the best QB seasons ever, by any team
Hill4Heisman
12/1/20 9:54am
RE: I've always thought the 1996 team was the best BYU has ever had.
FT487
11/30/20 11:59pm
In a mythical tournament, I’d take 1985, 1996, then 1984. 4th would be a tossup
The Chelsea Dagger
12/1/20 1:56am
‘83, ‘84, and ‘85 were all very good. I think ‘83 might be the best.
PhilPete
12/1/20 3:56am
Isn’t that what Lavell said?
Nat Gas Man
12/1/20 7:23am
Why no 2001 love?
Jagger
12/1/20 5:38am
The defense was problematic. All other years in question had stout defenses.
gwalker
12/1/20 5:40am
which was strange in view of the talent level
towerman
12/1/20 7:22am
2001 was a good, but fatally flawed team that eventually got exposed.
shoganai
12/1/20 8:02am
I agree, our 1996 team was BYU's best ever.
fruitless
12/1/20 6:59am
I was on my mission in 96 and a little young for 84 so 2020 it is
Colorado
12/1/20 8:03am
The 96 team had two things very few BYU teams have ever had. And that almost
shoganai
12/1/20 8:04am
Also, IIRC we were ranked #5 and still didn’t get
BlueLine
12/1/20 8:16am
RE: Also, IIRC we were ranked #5 and still didn’t get
FT487
12/1/20 8:30am
Unfortunately, I can’t disagree with you
BlueLine
12/1/20 9:08am
Yep. #5 at 14-1. Florida was #1 at 12-1.
Soupie
12/1/20 10:44am
BYU got shafted by an unranked Texas upsetting #3 Nebraska in the Big XII title
The Chelsea Dagger
12/1/20 1:25pm
I agree. And if they weren't better, then I am certainly more impressed...
BYUDM93
12/1/20 8:53am
I'm going with 1983 - Steve Young's senior year.
BlueFever
12/1/20 9:18am
You are 100% correct.
(Private)
12/1/20 9:36am
17-14 against New Mexico, 28-25 against Wyoming. 2020 is much better IMO.
Hill4Heisman
12/1/20 9:45am
They played 15 games! Set a record for the most ever played by a D-1 team
HootnHoller
12/1/20 9:49am
See 27-20 over UTSA even if it wasn't quite that close
Colorado
12/1/20 10:20am
New Mexico was 6-5 but Wyoming was 10-2 and ranked
Colorado
12/1/20 10:21am
Wyoming was actually really good that year
arizonacougarfan
12/1/20 10:23am
That Wyoming team was good--they were 7 points away from an undefeated season.
The Chelsea Dagger
12/1/20 1:41pm
I don’t remember 84, too young
gww687
12/1/20 10:11am
2009 over 2006? Wow.
Jeffacka
12/1/20 10:25am
Yeah that's not even close.
Lip Gallagher
12/1/20 11:01am
1985 or 1981 probably the best. 85 D was amazing.
BlueTooth
12/1/20 10:13am
UTEP disqualifies '85 from the conversation.
The Y's Insider
12/1/20 11:16am
Go back and watch the games.
Jeffacka
12/1/20 11:22am
Yes, it's 12 games. And BYU lost 1/4 of them.
The Y's Insider
12/1/20 11:51am
They were easily the most talented.
Jeffacka
12/1/20 12:11pm
Perhaps. That's a different conversation.
The Y's Insider
12/1/20 1:15pm
"Most talented" is not mutually exclusive "best team"--to many it's synonymous
The Chelsea Dagger
12/1/20 1:38pm
Many people would be wrong. Lots of talented, bad teams.
The Y's Insider
12/1/20 1:39pm
I second that motion!
socorny
12/1/20 10:30am
1983 and 1981
BYU Grounds
12/1/20 10:38am
You could be right.
Mitty
12/1/20 11:07am
I heard Lavell say his 83 team was the best team he ever had. However, that was
RobDog
12/1/20 11:45am
I heard him say this as well.
Gotnotact
12/1/20 11:49am
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