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Dec 4, 2020
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The Pope
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RE: Unpopular opinion: No Star Wars should have been made after Return of the
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Unpopular opinion: No Star Wars should have been made after Return of the Jedi
slowhiteguy
12/4/20 9:03pm
False. Not just an unpopular opinion - it’s bad
YIsForBrigham
12/4/20 9:03pm
Especially the Disney-era ones... atrocious.
seacougar
12/4/20 9:36pm
But at least they are diverse and are showing powerful women
Ojiisan
12/4/20 9:38pm
That's the funny part. All the woman but Rey are train wrecks.
Jacksonian76
12/4/20 9:44pm
Rebuttal: Original Trilogy is middle of the pack of all Star Wars material
backprop
12/4/20 9:04pm
RE: Rebuttal: Original Trilogy is middle of the pack of all Star Wars material
slowhiteguy
12/4/20 9:07pm
Thrawn, Rogue One, original x-wing series, KOTOR, the Mandalorian, off the top
backprop
12/4/20 9:35pm
Rebuttal, that opinion is dumb
LakeshowCougs
12/4/20 9:12pm
Rogue One is the best in the franchise.
TheHop
12/4/20 9:06pm
It is certainly the best of the new stuff.
slowhiteguy
12/4/20 9:08pm
Too many diversity hires. I didn't watch it for that reason alone.
BlueFever
12/4/20 9:09pm
Huge eye roll. RO was fantastic.
spugeddy24
12/4/20 9:10pm
Rogue 1 ruins A New Hope. It is no longer the careful
Jacksonian76
12/4/20 9:33pm
LOL. What? Luke still had to make it there to take the shot. The horrible weakness was always there. Now there is just
shimmy
12/4/20 10:01pm
Not a weakness. It was a design. Like just pushed the button.
Jacksonian76
12/4/20 10:03pm
Right. The fact the weakness was a design doesn't change a single thing for Luke's story.
shimmy
12/4/20 10:05pm
It's no longer a man over machine story.
Jacksonian76
12/4/20 10:08pm
I disagree completely. Nothing Galen Erso did undermined anything Luke did, and vice versa.
shimmy
12/4/20 10:11pm
You really think that is a big plot hole? 😂😂
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 10:05pm
The fact that the empire spent that many years and resources building the death star that was capable of being blown up
shimmy
12/4/20 10:06pm
No it wasn’t
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 10:15pm
It made a ton of sense that the Death Star could be brought down with 1 shot?
shimmy
12/4/20 10:27pm
Yes
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 10:41pm
It was never a plot hole. "The Empire doesn't consider small one man fighters a
Jacksonian76
12/4/20 10:05pm
The death star being brought down with one shot is a plot hole.
shimmy
12/4/20 10:07pm
You can call it a bad story telling, but it is addressed specifically.
Jacksonian76
12/4/20 10:09pm
The casting does not negatively impact the film.
DMVCougar
12/4/20 9:17pm
Agreed. That’s TLJ tbh
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 9:34pm
It did for those of us who can't stand revisionists
BlueFever
12/5/20 8:45am
Diversity hires? So in a universe with not only many races but also and infinite
akmewg
12/4/20 9:19pm
Watch Episode 4 and tell me all about those diverse humans. 🙂
BlueFever
12/4/20 9:26pm
Episode 4 was a film made in 1977 in the UK so not really shocking that most of
akmewg
12/4/20 9:34pm
Only that's not the reason for all the white actors.
BlueFever
12/4/20 9:39pm
So you don’t like the new ones because they don’t have an exclusively white cast?
DieHarder
12/4/20 10:05pm
No, I don't like the new ones because crybabies
BlueFever
12/5/20 8:49am
Wow, tripling down on it, did Lucas just get more Woke in 2 years between IV and
akmewg
12/4/20 10:07pm
Yes. There's an interview where Lucas stated that a friend of his once asked
BlueFever
12/5/20 8:52am
This is a really bad take. It really makes you look a bit, you know...........
spugeddy24
12/4/20 10:19pm
Racist?
BlueFever
12/5/20 8:55am
Boardname doesn’t check out.
TEXAS
12/5/20 6:42am
Your sources aren't very good. 😉
BlueFever
12/5/20 8:58am
This is an all-time classic "I'm not racist, but..." post
CommodoreCoug
12/5/20 7:47am
This is a better classic, in the spirit of Philip K. Dick:
BlueFever
12/5/20 9:00am
Star Wars is science *fiction*, not a documentary about earth in 21st century
DMVCougar
12/4/20 9:31pm
Sure but it’s a fictional story where race really doesn’t factor in to the
akmewg
12/4/20 9:38pm
False, KOTOR had a better plot twist 🙂
panacablue
12/4/20 9:09pm
Since ROTJ I think Rogue One, The Last Jedi (yeah I said it), Mando, Clone Wars, and Rebels are all at least as good
shimmy
12/4/20 9:10pm
Solo is actually pretty good. TLJ caused people to push back on solo but it was solid.
spugeddy24
12/4/20 9:11pm
Yep. I get why TLJ ruffled feathers. I loved it though.
shimmy
12/4/20 9:11pm
I’m one who hated TLJ and really liked Solo. I think a lot of SW content has been decent despite not liking the latest 3
spugeddy24
12/4/20 9:12pm
I agree with this
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 9:17pm
Solo is a forgettable generic heist movie with a Star Wars add on skin applied.
BYUtka
12/4/20 9:16pm
What do you think is the secret sauce that makes SW movies anything other than a generic hero journey with a sci fi skin
shimmy
12/4/20 9:31pm
Star Wars and Empire both caught lightning in a bottle which doing two times in
Jacksonian76
12/4/20 10:35pm
TLJ is a good Star Wars film? You do not understand Star Wars.
DMVCougar
12/4/20 9:18pm
He said Solo was good
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 9:19pm
You may be right. Not sure the way it's worded.
DMVCougar
12/4/20 9:21pm
He’s saying Solo was good but people didn’t want to watch it after TLJ
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 9:29pm
Correct.
spugeddy24
12/4/20 9:36pm
TLJ was garbage.
spugeddy24
12/4/20 9:36pm
I understand both film and SW.
shimmy
12/4/20 9:25pm
Do lasers shoot straight in space?
DMVCougar
12/4/20 9:32pm
if you are watching for correct portrayals of physics, star wars is not the content for you.
shimmy
12/4/20 9:38pm
May I recommend Mauler's critique on why the movie doesn't work? It's very poor
wildeone
12/4/20 9:45pm
TBH, no I'm not really interested in his opinion. If you want a battle of the experts there are plenty of film folks
shimmy
12/4/20 9:54pm
Well, if you'd like to know why people truly dislike it, outside of the
wildeone
12/4/20 9:58pm
I understand the complaints. I agree with a lot. I think subversion of expectations is great and overcomes it in TLJ.
shimmy
12/4/20 10:13pm
Subversion can be good, when executed correctly, but it was poorly executed in
wildeone
12/4/20 10:27pm
Disagree with a lot but I do agree with the final point. It was horrible execution for a trilogy.
shimmy
12/4/20 10:32pm
It’s a Star Wars question, not a physics question
DMVCougar
12/5/20 8:07am
If you're going to criticize TLJ for plot holes or elements that don't match up with established worldbuilding, you're
durandal
12/4/20 10:14pm
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East1999
12/4/20 9:24pm
Talking about Rogue 1 right? More of a true prequel than retread, the episode IV
akmewg
12/4/20 9:43pm
No that’s the force awakens
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 9:52pm
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East1999
12/4/20 9:56pm
The problem is that you think ROTJ is great because of your nostalgia for the film. Plenty of Star Wars content post
shimmy
12/4/20 9:08pm
This could be. The nostalgia is real. However even my kids prefer the
slowhiteguy
12/4/20 9:09pm
My kids prefer the originals to the prequels, but that is because I made them feel that way.
shimmy
12/4/20 9:10pm
Same, but I am happy that more Star Wars is being made. We watch Mandalorian eac
Oceanographer
12/4/20 9:17pm
It's widely considered the weakest of the three.
DMVCougar
12/4/20 9:15pm
Of the originals? Absolutely IMO.
shimmy
12/4/20 9:16pm
Disagree
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 9:20pm
ESB is the best of them all, and ANH is top tier. The original trilogy is by far the best.
shimmy
12/4/20 9:29pm
The original three are very boring. I find the most recent ones to be
LiveCoug
12/4/20 9:08pm
RE: Unpopular opinion: No Star Wars should have been made after Return of the
The Pope
12/4/20 9:10pm
Don't understand why Solo gets crapped on. It is my favorite of the newer stuff.
YNWA
12/4/20 9:12pm
That actually kills the entire storyline. Prequels have little to no tension.
DMVCougar
12/4/20 9:13pm
The sequel trilogy does cheapen a really good ending to the original trilogy
Great38
12/4/20 9:13pm
I’m a hack
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 9:14pm
I hated how the new trilogy essentially just had the same end purpose as the
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 9:13pm
Well one of the movies didn't, and tons of people hated it for it.
shimmy
12/4/20 9:15pm
People hated that movie because it was incoherent and PC
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 9:18pm
Which is precisely why Shimmy loved it
bluelands
12/4/20 9:21pm
LOL. If you say so. I couldn't care less about any PC aspect of the film. I'm also not offended by it.
shimmy
12/4/20 9:25pm
TLJ is the only movie post ESB with anything close to a twist. There wasn't a single thing in the other sequels that
shimmy
12/4/20 9:28pm
Problem with TLJ was there were too many plot twists
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 9:32pm
I agree it did a bad job setting up 9. That was the worst part of the trilogy. It wasn't a trilogy at all. That's all on
shimmy
12/4/20 9:41pm
I completely agree - although I enjoyed the sequel trilogy for the most part.
Oceanographer
12/4/20 9:45pm
Problem with Snoke dying was they replaced him with Palpatine
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 9:51pm
Agreed 1,000%. I hold that against ROS though. Wish they would have had the guts to make Kylo a true villain.
shimmy
12/4/20 9:55pm
Yep. That's all on Abrams and ROS, not TLJ. They had a real opportunity to do something interesting and take advantage
durandal
12/4/20 10:17pm
Yes but the reason they brought back Palpatine was because Snoke didn’t have a
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 10:18pm
Should have made Kylo the Big Bad and flesh that out.
shimmy
12/4/20 10:24pm
Agreed, but they flat out missed opportunities in TLJ
puntersarepeople
12/4/20 10:45pm
Even less popular opinion: No Star Wars should have been made - ever
eoscougar
12/4/20 9:14pm
False, that is a popular opinion, but for a vocal minority.
Jacksonian76
12/4/20 9:36pm
I see terrible opinions on here every day, but this takes it to a whole new level
DieHarder
12/4/20 9:53pm
The Fonz jumped a shark. Leia flew over a squid. Potato Potato.
Jacksonian76
12/4/20 10:02pm
For a long time, I personally enjoyed the prequels more than the originals
SirGus
12/4/20 10:02pm
I like them all, gave me a chance to enjoy them with my kids like my parents
USMCdad
12/5/20 1:26pm
This is the best take. Agree 100%.
Oceanographer
12/5/20 2:02pm
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