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Jan 12, 2021
1:27:09pm

westsidecoug All-American

You are acting like those AP top 25 finishes happened in the earliest days of

college football. BYU's success isn't from the earliest days of college football. They were from when many college football fans living today were well aware of them. The average college football knows of BYU football and its prestige. Those AP final rankings reflect that.

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westsidecoug

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Utah can say how much they have passed us up all they want, but this stat is

1/12/21 12:14pm

The problem is the trend no?

Fargo

1/12/21 12:16pm

The good thing is the trend has already started correcting itself this year.

1/12/21 12:18pm

A single year is a data point. Let's look at next season and see if there is a trend correction.

Tokolosh

1/12/21 12:19pm

Sure it is one data point, but it is going in the right direction. That is all

1/12/21 12:21pm

This year's schedule for BYU was certainly an outlier if you consider a few

Regal Ute

1/12/21 12:26pm

Leaving aside the original schedule, it's clear this was a good BYU team.

ReyOso

1/12/21 12:38pm

I think everyone can agree BYU was a good team in 2020. The question is if they

kudzucoug

1/12/21 12:52pm

That is fair, but this year's team was special regardless of the schedule. Too

1/12/21 12:50pm

BYU played a pathetic schedule. This year was a complete outlier. Means nothing.

Fargo

1/12/21 2:48pm

This, what was this same stat in 2002?

Coog4Life

1/12/21 12:19pm

LaVell accounted for 12 of those

NarfUte

1/12/21 1:11pm

Not really.

1/12/21 12:21pm

What does this have to do with whether Utah has passed up BYU? "Passed up"

Scratch

1/12/21 12:22pm

Final poll rankings have a ton to do with measuring teams and most importantly

1/12/21 12:49pm

Yale enjoyed great success before the era of the AP Polls. Clearly BYU is a better program but Yale would be high on...

Tokolosh

1/12/21 12:55pm

My post isn't regarding football before the AP poll.

1/12/21 1:27pm

Do you seriously not understand the point here? You're trying to distinguish

Scratch

1/12/21 1:35pm

Your point is about passing a historically strong program. BYU has passed Yale but the data you're using likely wouldn't

Tokolosh

1/12/21 1:37pm

None of what you just said has anything to do with whether or not Utah has

Scratch

1/12/21 1:08pm

You are acting like those AP top 25 finishes happened in the earliest days of

1/12/21 1:27pm

Yes they do. And they occurred before Utah passed BYU by. That's the point.

Scratch

1/12/21 1:34pm

BYU didn't have a single AP top 25 finish until a few years after LaVell took

1/12/21 2:36pm

*sigh* And yes, that is around the time when BYU passed Utah and stayed ahead

Scratch

1/12/21 2:43pm

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I put more weight on AP top 25 finishes

1/12/21 3:49pm

Do you understand that this discussion has nothing to do with the weight placed

Scratch

1/12/21 4:05pm

I'd think that as well if my team had under 10.

1/12/21 9:45pm

The fact that Ute fans regularly live and post on CB is the ultimate data point

Run-DMT

1/12/21 12:24pm

The irony is that this is on a post trying to explain why we're still better

Tricky

1/12/21 12:34pm

They have.

slowhiteguy

1/12/21 12:27pm

Utah is closer there to USU than BYU.

bluesloth

1/12/21 12:28pm

what doe that look like in the past 10 years?

1/12/21 1:27pm

Who cares? Our losing streak is older than my grandkids!

coastcat

1/12/21 3:17pm

One day Clemson (34) might even pass up USC (50)

krindorr

1/12/21 3:26pm

Utah has 6 final AP poll appearances in the last 15 years

formerly utesplease

1/13/21 11:05am

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