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Apr 20, 2021
10:09:28am

jdub FORMER USER

He didn't use his educational background to support his argument, as you did. He gave his opinion as a business owner

...in Utah who has interviewed/hired many graduates from the local schools. Given the specifics of his background, he's pretty qualified to talk about the relative quality of CS students in particular. He may have a bias--as we all do--but it's in his personal and business best interest to look past that bias and hire the best.

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Son's going into computer engineering. He was accepted at BYU, utah, Purdue and

SoValleyCOUG

4/20/21 9:27am

All would be fine. Follow the scholarship

Hoax

4/20/21 9:27am

Utah's computer science undergrad is really bad imo. And that's not my fan bias talking.

CSoul

4/20/21 9:29am

Hilarious take

sanitarium

4/20/21 9:31am

Not really, it's a pretty commonly held opinion in my circles.

CSoul

4/20/21 9:32am

Any objective criterion for the opinions of "your circles?"

sanitarium

4/20/21 9:42am

Thousands of job applicants over a decade and comparing them to BYU/USU in the real world

CSoul

4/20/21 9:46am

As a U of U engineering and law school graduate, who has also been

sanitarium

4/20/21 9:57am

RE: As a U of U engineering and law school graduate, who has also been

jdub

4/20/21 9:59am

Yes, almost as ironic as a BYU grad bashing on U of U degrees.

sanitarium

4/20/21 10:03am

He didn't use his educational background to support his argument, as you did. He gave his opinion as a business owner

jdub

4/20/21 10:09am

He only said computer science is weaker.

Byron McNertney

4/20/21 12:15pm

I am differentiating CS from engineering (I edited my post to reflect that) because I'm not really privy to

CSoul

4/20/21 10:05am

Wait, are you referring to Utah or USU?

MetaLearner

4/20/21 2:02pm

Yes, I don't have any specific idea why I've seen undergrads from USU be better on average than U of U in CS

CSoul

4/20/21 3:35pm

Very interesting and surprising to me.

MetaLearner

4/20/21 4:12pm

Well, given his background (which I know) let's just say he knows what he's talking about.

jdub

4/20/21 9:47am

Just do a straw poll at his next backyard BBQ and you'll see for yourself

Tricky

4/20/21 2:38pm

Despite the haters on CB, Utah has a really solid engineering program.

fulano

4/20/21 9:29am

Not their computer science department, and in computer engineering that's more than half the degree

CSoul

4/20/21 9:31am

Purdue is a great school...

ChiefBeef

4/20/21 9:29am

$7,000 total or per year, or what?

CosmoK

4/20/21 9:30am

Sorry...yes it's $7,000 per year.

SoValleyCOUG

4/20/21 9:34am

The networking and potential earnings differential between Utah & Purdue is

BigD Coug

4/20/21 9:31am

Purdue will probably be the most prestigious engineering degree of those

4/20/21 9:32am

And probably the worst experience for an LDS kid.

4/20/21 9:36am

It's 1 hour from me. He can join us for Come Follow Me. And I have 4 daughters

4/20/21 9:39am

My son was an on campus missionary at Purdue for 6 months.... not a lot going

kotacoug

4/20/21 9:40am

Why do people think this way? Because it's not close to a large LDS community

reagan21

4/20/21 10:05am

Grad school is so different from undergrad, even if you're single.

4/20/21 10:47am

Personally, I’d go to the school that is best overall. Unless he’s already into engineering, that will be a slog

letthewookieewin

4/20/21 9:34am

With something like computer engineering, he should just go where he wants. The

4/20/21 9:35am

Even w $7000 isn’t BYU cheaper.... and better

kotacoug

4/20/21 9:36am

I don't know. I've seen reports that BYU grads make more than grads from other

SoValleyCOUG

4/20/21 9:40am

College is way more than education.

Mises

4/20/21 9:37am

I agree.

SoValleyCOUG

4/20/21 9:41am

RE: College is way more than education.

4/20/21 11:08am

I absolutely loved my time at BYU. Great friends and my social life was great.

4/20/21 6:07pm

I’d say Purdue or TAMU, but I have no idea how the programs compare to one another.

4/20/21 9:43am

Many CEs have difficulty dating - at BYU they are in higher demand.

novacoug1

4/20/21 9:43am

I would guess - although not knowing much about Utah -

newbie

4/20/21 9:45am

No ideas where he wants to live. Have't gotten that far into it.

SoValleyCOUG

4/20/21 10:39am

BYU, of course. Freshman year in the dorms was the best year of my life - set

Iman23

4/20/21 9:57am

Purdue has one of the best STEM programs/networks in the country-

CougieMcCougFace

4/20/21 10:03am

Network is only relevant where you want to live. If he wants to go back to Utah the Purdue network does nothing there

molodyets

4/20/21 10:22am

Top places recruit nationally at the best schools

CougieMcCougFace

4/20/21 1:05pm

I'm a little biased with Purdue. My grandpa died in 2000 and he had received

reagan21

4/20/21 10:12am

Purdue is the best launch-pad for CS/CE. BYU is the best all around choice IMO.

stenso

4/20/21 10:29am

Are the kind who drives trains?

reagan21

4/20/21 10:31am

I wish!

stenso

4/20/21 10:31am

aTm — literally like printing money

bruincoug

4/20/21 10:45am

Going to another school over BYU just because of a scholarship seems silly.

RealComfortableJeans

4/20/21 12:05pm

Considering competitive price of BYU, often true.

CosmoK

4/20/21 12:58pm

My friend who is not LDS just hired a magna cum laude out of BYU Computer Scienc

(Private)

4/20/21 1:51pm

A CEO from one of the silicon slopes companies spoke at the Marriott School

Great38

4/20/21 3:56pm

Does a CS degree make you a programmer? I honestly don't know.

CosmoK

4/20/21 4:59pm

There are several programming classes required in a CS degree.

jdub

4/20/21 5:36pm

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