Is the caricature that of a state of Utah BYU fan or of all BYU fans? When I

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Jun 21, 2021
10:03:20am

coastcat All-American

Is the caricature that of a state of Utah BYU fan or of all BYU fans? When I

was a student there was a term California Mormons compared to Utah Mormons. Does that hold true today? The implication was California LDS are normal mainstream church going people and Utah LDS were different.

I am a non-LDS alum so I'm arriving to this from hearsay. I saw differences. They didn't influence me either way. They were just different.

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This is a Cat 5 hurricane through college sports. Tough to overstate how heavily

shoganai

6/21/21 8:37am

...especially when combined with Title IX requiring funding for women's sports

6/21/21 8:43am

And that's Reason #1 why many schools will have to start consdering if it's even

shoganai

6/21/21 8:50am

Not sure I understand your comment in this context.

StalwartBraveTrue

6/21/21 9:57am

You are completely missing the implications here…. There now is no reason NOT

Pretorian

6/21/21 10:04am

I guess my point was that costs just went up for ALL sports.

6/21/21 10:46am

This I agree with. Unless the school treats all sports the same in regards to

StalwartBraveTrue

6/21/21 11:03am

What do you mean by making bank?

StalwartBraveTrue

6/21/21 11:02am

I hope you’re right, I just don’t see a scenario where schools don’t find a way

Pretorian

6/21/21 3:14pm

Plenty of case law out there suggesting it has to apply equally as far as I know

StalwartBraveTrue

6/22/21 9:32am

My money is on CFB team doing what they must to get players rather than lawyers

Pretorian

6/22/21 11:37am

Probably a good bet.

StalwartBraveTrue

6/22/21 11:43am

So they can buy them stuff instead of giving them money to buy stuff

zonacougar

6/21/21 1:41pm

So each athlete must be allowed to get what they can,

Blue Ghost

6/21/21 4:46pm

It just nuked most G5 programs and will widen the divide between haves and have nots. Time for another Division.

6/21/21 8:44am

A new division was a totally viable solution yesterday. Today it's meaningless.

shoganai

6/21/21 8:48am

Can someone give me a TLDR? I have no clue what this is about.

Icelandic Cougar

6/21/21 8:52am

The NCAA cannot require college athletes remain "amateurs". They are allowed

StarMan

6/21/21 8:55am

SCOTUS just ruled that the NCAA can't limit how much "education related"

shoganai

6/21/21 8:58am

eBay will be full of football players' laptops since they get 100 every semester

panacablue

6/21/21 9:00am

AND...courts have already ruled that players can benefit from their own likeness

macdizzle

6/21/21 9:06am

Basically, yes. Still TBD how that all takes shape.

shoganai

6/21/21 9:09am

I need a 2021 Escalade to get to classes, thanks coach!

BYUFam1

6/21/21 9:44am

There is an easily justifiable case for cars in most education settings. How

Lance71

6/21/21 5:16pm

I think this kills BYU. The BOT will not be cool with upping the arms race.

6/21/21 8:56am

The one area where BYU athletes could do well is sponsorships

nc-puma

6/21/21 9:07am

I worry we overstate the fanbase; we don't get the viewers other schools do, so

krindorr

6/21/21 9:44am

yeah that may be true

nc-puma

6/21/21 11:01am

'we don't get the viewers other schools do' What other schools?

ManicBlue

6/21/21 2:54pm

Memphis, UCF, Cincy, Utah, TCU, West Virginia

krindorr

6/21/21 3:09pm

No those schools don't outdraw BYU. It's their opponents that are the draw.

ManicBlue

6/22/21 1:23am

Wait I've been told Independence gives us higher profile opponents than AAC play

krindorr

6/22/21 6:37am

Check the time slots. Makes a huge difference.

ManicBlue

6/22/21 9:22am

Oh absolutely; they get better time slots

krindorr

6/22/21 12:44pm

They put BYU in the late time slot because they can based on location and

ManicBlue

6/22/21 1:23pm

RE: They put BYU in the late time slot because they can based on location and

krindorr

6/22/21 3:13pm

To put it all in perspective, how do they each fare within their timeslots?

ManicBlue

6/22/21 3:55pm

Their national games are mostly AAC, BYU's all P5/bowls; no time slot data

krindorr

6/22/21 4:45pm

Again without the time slot data ... apples and oranges right?

ManicBlue

6/22/21 4:52pm

Not a single BYU student athlete will suffer from Hashimotos

ryebrye

6/21/21 2:41pm

Or any ailment for that matter. Cancer? There’s an oil for that!

nc-puma

6/21/21 3:08pm

I would love to disagree with you. But I can't.

shoganai

6/21/21 9:09am

It depends on how education related benefits is going to be defined. Hopefully Congress does that quickly.

6/21/21 9:13am

I doubt congress gets involved.

shoganai

6/21/21 9:15am

People have said this every step along the way. Every step along the way BYU has

travelcoug

6/21/21 9:51am

Is the caricature that of a state of Utah BYU fan or of all BYU fans? When I

coastcat

6/21/21 10:03am

Can it be paid by outside donors and not go through the BOT? Don't know what the

O Gaucho

6/21/21 10:01am

You must have just completely ignored BYU media day.

Lance71

6/21/21 5:17pm

Kinda, but saying one thing and doing it are two different things.

6/21/21 6:43pm

As if the education they received wasn’t devalued enough as it was… pathetic

Pretorian

6/21/21 10:05am

Aren't education related expenses already defined through 529 savings plans law?

(Private)

6/21/21 10:51am

It is ALSO a consistent ruling based on natural law. But the real caution...

LEDSFW

6/21/21 10:52am

There will clearly be many unanticipated consequences...

lbmango

6/21/21 11:12am

True. If many schools start dropping sports, the athletes have accomplished

kmcougar

6/21/21 11:16am

A millionaire could do the same thing with his daughter with no tax consequences

(Private)

6/21/21 11:17am

Not so because the work for pay rule is more likely the law herre.

LEDSFW

6/21/21 4:11pm

What's the fascination with natural law? And why do you think it applies here?

(Private)

6/21/21 4:18pm

Not sure these are progressive ideas. They're about as foundational and conser

ebv

6/21/21 12:05pm

"even if they should"

wilsdad

6/21/21 11:24am

I think people are reading too much into it. Title IX will actually tamp down

StalwartBraveTrue

6/21/21 11:46am

Will athletes dorm rooms be the next locker rooms? The need a place to stay.

GilbertAZCougar

6/21/21 5:59pm

Will athletes negotiate with Agents the terms of support with the school?

wilsdad

6/21/21 8:01pm

I don’t see it happening.

StalwartBraveTrue

6/22/21 9:41am

It’s possible. How many schools do you think will create dorms like that

StalwartBraveTrue

6/22/21 9:40am

Pandora's box has been opened. Amateurism is dead at the D1 level in BB & FB.

Forzaitalia

6/21/21 11:53am

RE: This is a Cat 5 hurricane through college sports. Tough to overstate how

6/21/21 2:47pm

They broke COVID rules, which is far more offensive to the Woke 12

AZ Coug

6/21/21 2:59pm

What did ASU do?

StalwartBraveTrue

6/22/21 2:22pm

Nah, more like a light, momentary breeze... It will blow over in about 3 seconds

the_big_blue_funk

6/21/21 3:27pm

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