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Jun 21, 2021
8:37:45am

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This is a Cat 5 hurricane through college sports. Tough to overstate how heavily

it reshapes the entire landscape. The world of college athletics we knew and loved yesterday - even with all its flaws and frustrations - is now gone, and it's never coming back.

The NCAA can no longer limit how much schools compensate their student athletes, as long as the compensation is somehow "related to education." At a minimum, that means stuff like free laptops every semester, guaranteed graduate scholarships and post-grad internships, free loss-of-value insurance policies, etc. Over time, the list of ways they find to ship money the athletes' way will no doubt become endless.

This could very well end up being a death blow for the NCAA. At the very least, it will force every school to completely re-evaluate and redefine how they're sponsoring athletics - or if they even should.

BREAKING: The United States Supreme Court has rendered a decision on NCAA v. Alston.

9-0 ruling in favor of the players and against the NCAA.

LINK: https://t.co/0qJ948YpUr pic.twitter.com/i1UPyeVe3v
— Dan Lust (@SportsLawLust) June 21, 2021

https://twitter.com/SportsLawLust/status/1406980688017039363

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This is a Cat 5 hurricane through college sports. Tough to overstate how heavily

shoganai

6/21/21 8:37am

...especially when combined with Title IX requiring funding for women's sports

6/21/21 8:43am

And that's Reason #1 why many schools will have to start consdering if it's even

shoganai

6/21/21 8:50am

Not sure I understand your comment in this context.

StalwartBraveTrue

6/21/21 9:57am

You are completely missing the implications here…. There now is no reason NOT

Pretorian

6/21/21 10:04am

I guess my point was that costs just went up for ALL sports.

6/21/21 10:46am

This I agree with. Unless the school treats all sports the same in regards to

StalwartBraveTrue

6/21/21 11:03am

What do you mean by making bank?

StalwartBraveTrue

6/21/21 11:02am

I hope you’re right, I just don’t see a scenario where schools don’t find a way

Pretorian

6/21/21 3:14pm

Plenty of case law out there suggesting it has to apply equally as far as I know

StalwartBraveTrue

6/22/21 9:32am

My money is on CFB team doing what they must to get players rather than lawyers

Pretorian

6/22/21 11:37am

Probably a good bet.

StalwartBraveTrue

6/22/21 11:43am

So they can buy them stuff instead of giving them money to buy stuff

zonacougar

6/21/21 1:41pm

So each athlete must be allowed to get what they can,

Blue Ghost

6/21/21 4:46pm

It just nuked most G5 programs and will widen the divide between haves and have nots. Time for another Division.

6/21/21 8:44am

A new division was a totally viable solution yesterday. Today it's meaningless.

shoganai

6/21/21 8:48am

Can someone give me a TLDR? I have no clue what this is about.

Icelandic Cougar

6/21/21 8:52am

The NCAA cannot require college athletes remain "amateurs". They are allowed

StarMan

6/21/21 8:55am

SCOTUS just ruled that the NCAA can't limit how much "education related"

shoganai

6/21/21 8:58am

eBay will be full of football players' laptops since they get 100 every semester

panacablue

6/21/21 9:00am

AND...courts have already ruled that players can benefit from their own likeness

macdizzle

6/21/21 9:06am

Basically, yes. Still TBD how that all takes shape.

shoganai

6/21/21 9:09am

I need a 2021 Escalade to get to classes, thanks coach!

BYUFam1

6/21/21 9:44am

There is an easily justifiable case for cars in most education settings. How

Lance71

6/21/21 5:16pm

I think this kills BYU. The BOT will not be cool with upping the arms race.

6/21/21 8:56am

The one area where BYU athletes could do well is sponsorships

nc-puma

6/21/21 9:07am

I worry we overstate the fanbase; we don't get the viewers other schools do, so

krindorr

6/21/21 9:44am

yeah that may be true

nc-puma

6/21/21 11:01am

'we don't get the viewers other schools do' What other schools?

ManicBlue

6/21/21 2:54pm

Memphis, UCF, Cincy, Utah, TCU, West Virginia

krindorr

6/21/21 3:09pm

No those schools don't outdraw BYU. It's their opponents that are the draw.

ManicBlue

6/22/21 1:23am

Wait I've been told Independence gives us higher profile opponents than AAC play

krindorr

6/22/21 6:37am

Check the time slots. Makes a huge difference.

ManicBlue

6/22/21 9:22am

Oh absolutely; they get better time slots

krindorr

6/22/21 12:44pm

They put BYU in the late time slot because they can based on location and

ManicBlue

6/22/21 1:23pm

RE: They put BYU in the late time slot because they can based on location and

krindorr

6/22/21 3:13pm

To put it all in perspective, how do they each fare within their timeslots?

ManicBlue

6/22/21 3:55pm

Their national games are mostly AAC, BYU's all P5/bowls; no time slot data

krindorr

6/22/21 4:45pm

Again without the time slot data ... apples and oranges right?

ManicBlue

6/22/21 4:52pm

Not a single BYU student athlete will suffer from Hashimotos

ryebrye

6/21/21 2:41pm

Or any ailment for that matter. Cancer? There’s an oil for that!

nc-puma

6/21/21 3:08pm

I would love to disagree with you. But I can't.

shoganai

6/21/21 9:09am

It depends on how education related benefits is going to be defined. Hopefully Congress does that quickly.

6/21/21 9:13am

I doubt congress gets involved.

shoganai

6/21/21 9:15am

People have said this every step along the way. Every step along the way BYU has

travelcoug

6/21/21 9:51am

Is the caricature that of a state of Utah BYU fan or of all BYU fans? When I

coastcat

6/21/21 10:03am

Can it be paid by outside donors and not go through the BOT? Don't know what the

O Gaucho

6/21/21 10:01am

You must have just completely ignored BYU media day.

Lance71

6/21/21 5:17pm

Kinda, but saying one thing and doing it are two different things.

6/21/21 6:43pm

As if the education they received wasn’t devalued enough as it was… pathetic

Pretorian

6/21/21 10:05am

Aren't education related expenses already defined through 529 savings plans law?

(Private)

6/21/21 10:51am

It is ALSO a consistent ruling based on natural law. But the real caution...

LEDSFW

6/21/21 10:52am

There will clearly be many unanticipated consequences...

lbmango

6/21/21 11:12am

True. If many schools start dropping sports, the athletes have accomplished

kmcougar

6/21/21 11:16am

A millionaire could do the same thing with his daughter with no tax consequences

(Private)

6/21/21 11:17am

Not so because the work for pay rule is more likely the law herre.

LEDSFW

6/21/21 4:11pm

What's the fascination with natural law? And why do you think it applies here?

(Private)

6/21/21 4:18pm

Not sure these are progressive ideas. They're about as foundational and conser

ebv

6/21/21 12:05pm

"even if they should"

wilsdad

6/21/21 11:24am

I think people are reading too much into it. Title IX will actually tamp down

StalwartBraveTrue

6/21/21 11:46am

Will athletes dorm rooms be the next locker rooms? The need a place to stay.

GilbertAZCougar

6/21/21 5:59pm

Will athletes negotiate with Agents the terms of support with the school?

wilsdad

6/21/21 8:01pm

I don’t see it happening.

StalwartBraveTrue

6/22/21 9:41am

It’s possible. How many schools do you think will create dorms like that

StalwartBraveTrue

6/22/21 9:40am

Pandora's box has been opened. Amateurism is dead at the D1 level in BB & FB.

Forzaitalia

6/21/21 11:53am

RE: This is a Cat 5 hurricane through college sports. Tough to overstate how

6/21/21 2:47pm

They broke COVID rules, which is far more offensive to the Woke 12

AZ Coug

6/21/21 2:59pm

What did ASU do?

StalwartBraveTrue

6/22/21 2:22pm

Nah, more like a light, momentary breeze... It will blow over in about 3 seconds

the_big_blue_funk

6/21/21 3:27pm

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