This is a reasonable, fair take. I respect that.

Oct 9, 2021
6:35:03pm

Machiavelli All-American

And I do agree.

I think some CBers have become obsessive in their hate for Tuiaki and this defense. Today the offense was abysmal and put the defense in a horrible position many times.

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Lol...just have to laugh at CB sometimes...

Machiavelli

10/9/21 6:16pm

Our defense does suck.

Blue Print

10/9/21 6:17pm

This. It was a group effort. Their OL was supposed to be a weakness

jrifkin48

10/9/21 6:17pm

Yeah other than the 2 tds off tos, our d was terrible, gave up 12 points.

MrClark

10/9/21 6:53pm

And allowed them to eat the clock.

Blue Print

10/9/21 7:02pm

Our offense fumbled two plays IN A ROW around our own 25. Not the defense’s fault they didn’t have the ball “enough”

mvtoro

10/9/21 10:22pm

Sigh.

Blue Print

10/9/21 10:31pm

Giving up a first down is not remotely close to fumbling on your own 20. And once again, the problem wasn’t a lack of

mvtoro

10/9/21 11:07pm

Go back and reread my original post.

Blue Print

10/10/21 12:32am

“There’s no room for error…” There is an incredibly large amount of room for error between “no error” and 6 turnovers.

mvtoro

10/10/21 12:57am

When we don’t start really playing defense until they’re on our 20, what

Blue Print

10/10/21 6:43am

Here’s the difference: when we didn’t make the defense start defending inside our own 25, they gave up 0 TDs and 12

mvtoro

10/10/21 9:09am

Defense did a good job today until the last drive

RGGeemer

10/9/21 6:17pm

Against an O that I believe

FatherOFive

10/9/21 6:20pm

Until that long pass and incredible catch....

Benfica1

10/9/21 6:52pm

I more was referring to the 2 bad penalties.

RGGeemer

10/9/21 8:19pm

Perhaps a CBer had the most accurate quote during the game "it works but it is frustrating"

TNT

10/9/21 6:18pm

Offense has an off game and the defense plays their regular game. Did nothing

slowhiteguy

10/9/21 6:18pm

I mean...26 points isn't that much given the 4 TOs plus two 4th down failed conv

Machiavelli

10/9/21 6:21pm

Because it's trash.

slowhiteguy

10/9/21 6:26pm

It isn't, but Is like a defense that is capable of doing something other than

cougaman

10/9/21 6:27pm

Some of us just don’t like mediocre defense. So sue us.

Bossk82

10/9/21 6:18pm

Defense generated plenty of turnovers in the previous games

Machiavelli

10/9/21 6:22pm

I actually liked the D the first 3 games. Since then? Nope.

Bossk82

10/9/21 6:24pm

Few near universal truths with the BYU fanbase generally.

dfudge

10/9/21 6:19pm

Sticky this 😅

Machiavelli

10/9/21 6:23pm

Saying the defense was bad ISN’T the same as saying the offense was good.

Bossk82

10/9/21 6:26pm

This ^^^^. They aren’t mutually exclusive. Both sucked today. So BYU lost.

The_Cuss

10/9/21 10:02pm

We gave up double their average in rushing yards 🙄

PING Man

10/9/21 6:20pm

Yeah, people lock on to their emotional biases.

k-ace

10/9/21 6:21pm

How's their rushing game been before today? How was it today? How many TO's

BYUfan92

10/9/21 6:24pm

Good analysis

TNT

10/9/21 6:25pm

How’s their rushing D been before today? We lost the LOS on both sides and

NewMexiCoug

10/9/21 10:22pm

Kanani mentioned the D many times in post game

maxpowers

10/9/21 6:28pm

There’s no doubt the D was not the primary culprit for today’s loss. BUT, that

P-townCoug

10/9/21 6:30pm

This is a reasonable, fair take. I respect that.

Machiavelli

10/9/21 6:35pm

But the offense’s mistakes today were uncharacteristic, whereas the defense’s …

Bossk82

10/9/21 6:38pm

Yep, fair. But that doesn't mean you don't blame the offense for the loss

Machiavelli

10/9/21 6:40pm

Oh, I absolutely place huge blame on the offense today. No question.

Bossk82

10/9/21 6:55pm

Let's talk when BYU's D starts producing some 3-and-outs instead of allowing

TrueBlue67

10/9/21 7:37pm

Thanks for the chuckles 😅

Machiavelli

10/9/21 8:29pm

I'm glad you find BYU's D comical.

TrueBlue67

10/9/21 8:34pm

This man has a point. Def easy target, but it was the fumbles and failed 4th

zerome4sooners

10/9/21 8:41pm

But, amazingly, if Tuiaki's D can force JUST ONE 3-and-out with 3 minutes to go,

TrueBlue67

10/9/21 8:44pm

Nope. The offense couldn't score. Maybe the D could have gotten a pick 6.

Benfica1

10/9/21 9:29pm

Actually they did force a 3 and out in the 4th quarter to give us a chance

Machiavelli

10/9/21 9:30pm

Our D scheme still sucks, but your point is valid.

TheLoneCougar

10/9/21 9:10pm

Yep I can agree with that

Machiavelli

10/9/21 11:30pm

This scheme doesn't work well when you are playing from behind.

TheLoneCougar

10/10/21 5:05am

Yea, I get some of the frustrations with the defense but

CougarsFanSince80s

10/9/21 9:51pm

3 fumbles and we lost it all in the trenches. . .

Zoobieman

10/9/21 10:51pm

We didn’t really though:

mvtoro

10/9/21 11:37pm

Dude, we lost the trenches. . . Stats show Allgeier was superior to their RBs

Zoobieman

10/16/21 2:44pm

Today's loss was definitely a team effort

reddead

10/9/21 10:57pm

Also please participate in this poll:

Machiavelli

10/9/21 11:53pm

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