I think big business is growing in Utah and those firms want a cut. Small biz is still going to look for less costly rep

Oct 15, 2021
12:49:13pm

Turnpike Lane CB Barometer

ANd Utah has a ton of small businesses. So I think smaller or specialized guys in a specific area will do fine scooping that work up if you're good at what you do. Big businesses or people with huge egos will want the big name firms though.

I still think there will be plenty to go around, but certain industries will be different. Like Patent and M&A work.

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Interesting trends in the Utah legal market...

Bill Moore Esq

10/15/21 12:37pm

Several H&H attys joined Dorsey & Whitney which does have an office in SLC. Still, your point about fees is well taken.

shokupanmanbo

10/15/21 12:40pm

That was a while ago, but the ones they hired after that are gone.

Bill Moore Esq

10/15/21 12:40pm

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Mjolnir

10/15/21 12:43pm

It's a complete no brainer.

Bill Moore Esq

10/15/21 12:45pm

They're going to love life when they realize that billing 2300 hours in a year

benny1982

10/15/21 12:57pm

Work 3000+ hours to bill 2300 hours. Enjoy 12+ hour work days.

Turnpike Lane

10/15/21 1:03pm

Yep, been there done that. Never ever again. The money would have to be waaaaay

Ozymandias

10/15/21 1:37pm

Yeah, not for me.

Mjolnir

10/16/21 12:34pm

Mm me. Mn’. Mm. M. N.

Submariner

10/15/21 3:34pm

Yep, I have many friends who firms like Kirton McConkie wouldn’t even look at,

califcougar

10/15/21 12:45pm

I'll bet this happens with tech jobs as well if it hasn't already. I work for a

dYrtbYkerYder

10/15/21 12:45pm

$504k?!?!?!??!

TNT

10/15/21 12:48pm

$205k starting salary up to $365k for 8th year associates. With bonuses, it can

byuwahoo

10/15/21 12:53pm

So much money. Freaking wealthy CBers

TNT

10/15/21 12:54pm

Current "market firms" (about the top 60 firms) pay what I noted above.

Bill Moore Esq

10/15/21 12:57pm

Most firms top out at $340 base plus $164k in bonuses

Bill Moore Esq

10/15/21 12:56pm

So.....TNT should have been an attorney?

TNT

10/15/21 12:57pm

Do you enjoy life , health, or spending time with your friends or family?

Bill Moore Esq

10/15/21 1:07pm

No sir

TNT

10/15/21 2:00pm

When can you start?

Bill Moore Esq

10/15/21 3:03pm

I think big business is growing in Utah and those firms want a cut. Small biz is still going to look for less costly rep

Turnpike Lane

10/15/21 12:49pm

This thread is giving me PTSD from my days working in BigLaw

Doctor Rosenrosen

10/15/21 12:51pm

definitely. Such an improvement.

Bill Moore Esq

10/15/21 1:08pm

Heard from a national law firm client in SLC that K&E is offering double

JDBlue

10/15/21 1:08pm

Also look at all the national firms entering the SLC office recently

JDBlue

10/15/21 1:11pm

What’s the realistic likelihood of making partner if you’re working 100%

hansel

10/15/21 1:29pm

Not good but fewer firms are up or out these days.

Bill Moore Esq

10/15/21 1:51pm

To some extent. It gets precarious when your billing rate increases

hansel

10/15/21 2:07pm

You know what’s more interesting? How overpaid attorneys are. Crazy.

pink22

10/15/21 1:38pm

Median attorney pay in the US is $86k. In Utah, $88k. Big law is a big racket. Only big biz should use them.

Turnpike Lane

10/15/21 1:52pm

Sorry you are wrong. Frankly, those salaries aren't worth what is required, IMO.

Ozymandias

10/15/21 2:19pm

If there is any profession whose highly-paid members truly earn their money

hansel

10/15/21 2:53pm

As an attorney who has worked for multiple firms, including in SLC, not a

VenturaCoug

10/15/21 1:48pm

Good points

TrackCoug

10/15/21 2:19pm

FWIW, I hated practicing in Utah. 90% of the work for 50% of the pay.

Bill Moore Esq

10/15/21 2:37pm

That last 10% is worth so much more than the first 90% IMO, but I do hope this

VenturaCoug

10/15/21 4:04pm

K&E’s new manager for their SLC office is a BYU Law school graduate and grew

Bullrider

10/15/21 7:04pm

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