Wilner has mixed motives. If AZ schools, Utah, Colorado leave. He's out of a job

Jul 2, 2022
11:31:43am

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I'm not sure his post is accurate. I'm 100% positive ASU would bring value to the Big 12, but Wilner lumped them in with the other three maybes.

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In Ben Criddle’s unofficial poll, 60 something percent of cougar fans

Bluedomination

7/2/22 9:38am

I don’t get it. Are you arguing we should be like Yewts?

MogollonMtsCoug

7/2/22 9:40am

ONLY if it is necessary to also grab other PAC schools.

Benfica1

7/2/22 9:42am

And yet, 60-something% are dead wrong.

Snipe

7/2/22 9:42am

The U of U would destroy BYU sports if they could. They’ve already tried. They

BlooCoog

7/2/22 9:43am

They bring zero additional value to the Big XII. They are a net negative.

BYUtka

7/2/22 9:53am

You were wrong the first 7 times you posted this.

Utefaninenemyland

7/2/22 9:56am

Go away, oh you can't, there is no where else to go

nybyblue

7/2/22 10:03am

Link to your proof that I am incorrect? Even PAC homer Wilner says it.

BYUtka

7/2/22 10:05am

Wilner has mixed motives. If AZ schools, Utah, Colorado leave. He's out of a job

here's to hoping

7/2/22 11:31am

Ok, what do they bring exactly? Why would the Big12 choose Utah over, say, Colo

yahtzee

7/2/22 11:11am

According to the WSJ they are one of the 20 most valuable college football

Utefaninenemyland

7/2/22 11:15am

Link?

yahtzee

7/2/22 11:18am

Here is a list of 25 schools. Which 5 here do you think are less valuable?

yahtzee

7/2/22 11:46am

....Wall Street Journal had Utah #37

krindorr

7/2/22 12:54pm

Where WSJ ranks various Big 12 / PAC12 teams in value

krindorr

7/2/22 1:02pm

How is value being calculated. That prob presupposes contracted tv revenue

yahtzee

7/2/22 1:21pm

Presumably, which is one reason I had the note at the end

krindorr

7/2/22 1:24pm

Yeah sorry corrected in another thread, they were referring to Utah being 14th

Utefaninenemyland

7/2/22 1:24pm

Thank you for correcting your lie.

ParentingNotForSissy

7/2/22 5:30pm

I can tell you that ESPN's valuation numbers are very different than what the WSJ shows, especially after the top 12-15

slatecoug

7/2/22 6:15pm

Always like to see different perspectives - didn't know ESPN had a public list. Do you have a link?

krindorr

7/2/22 6:18pm

There's a few in the top 15 according to WSJ that ESPN does not agree with.

slatecoug

7/2/22 6:20pm

If Utah is interested, than the big 12 will be interested.

cougar4life55

7/2/22 2:07pm

Will they? Will a broadcast partner really be willing to pay enough more for

BYUtka

7/2/22 2:17pm

Keeping telling yourself this.

Utefaninenemyland

7/2/22 2:26pm

Link to your proof I am incorrect? You keep responding to my posts like a creepy

BYUtka

7/2/22 2:33pm

In fairness, neither of you have provided evidence for your claims

krindorr

7/2/22 4:01pm

To be fair, It’s obvious that Utah is pick #5 from the PAC12. So does it matter?

The_Cuss

7/2/22 5:46pm

That's because they were playing USC, UCLA, OR, and UW

slatecoug

7/2/22 6:10pm

As a BYU guy I am not naïve enoungh to suggest Colorado is worth more than Yewta

Dat_rmishner

7/2/22 11:53am

CO brings a bigger TV market. UT brings a better FB team.

Forzaitalia

7/2/22 1:41pm

You don't add Colorado or Utah. Neither brings much.

slatecoug

7/2/22 6:09pm

This is accurate, but to not invite them just to get back at them is not the BYU way

2FarGone

7/2/22 10:25am

Right, so don't invite them because adding them reduces our payouts. It doesn't

BYUtka

7/2/22 10:32am

Utah is a, remote, but possible big 10 addition. In no way should BYU EVER give

Kajdin

7/2/22 9:47am

Honestly, B1G would have to expand to 26 teams to get that far.

RealityCheck

7/2/22 10:03am

Maryland is already in the Big 10.... Just FYI

krindorr

7/2/22 1:04pm

Only if the b1g is interested in charity considering they’d

BYU '80

7/2/22 10:11am

The only place Utah wouldn't be a net negative addition would be the MWC.

BYUtka

7/2/22 10:13am

That is why they were selected by the pac 12 10 years ago. Oh yeah religious

Utefaninenemyland

7/2/22 10:41am

The PAC made a desperate knee jerk reaction then, thinking they had to expand.

BYUtka

7/2/22 10:56am

Research school. The Pac 12 is looking more and more like the Ivy League.

ParentingNotForSissy

7/2/22 5:34pm

People miss the old days when we shared a conference And we dominated them.

Ted Lasso

7/2/22 9:48am

Where you end up on this question seems largely based on whether you are

Gavin

7/2/22 9:52am

For me it’s the opposite. My heart yearns to have an epic annual rivalry

BYUCLA

7/2/22 9:58am

I’m a hack.

Bluedomination

7/2/22 9:59am

Would help BYUs recruiting significantly if Utah went down

BYU '80

7/2/22 10:13am

That’s a very fair counterpoint.

Gavin

7/2/22 10:15am

Seems like the two schools who have hurt us the most in recruiting are Stanford

deljdc

7/2/22 3:21pm

I’m on the opposite spectrum, my heart says the rivalry is fun, my brain says

Bluedomination

7/2/22 9:59am

Both my heart and my head cryout burn baby burn!

nybyblue

7/2/22 10:05am

Talk to your head about decreased revenue shares, lost recruits, dealing with

BYUtka

7/2/22 10:22am

Regarding the rivalry and BYU’s identity

cajuncoug

7/2/22 1:50pm

60%? I call bull.

Zaphod

7/2/22 10:04am

Listen to his podcast.

Bluedomination

7/2/22 10:48am

I’m sure that includes a lot of Utes who listen to his show.

deja-blu

7/2/22 11:28am

There is a reason we call them Yewts; Don't be a Yewt

2FarGone

7/2/22 10:24am

Wow--that may speak more to who listens to Ben Criddle.

Incentivize

7/2/22 10:31am

Or follows him on Twitter. Yewts are all over Twitter. It is an infestation.

BYUtka

7/2/22 10:33am

Criddle has a lot of Ute followers. They love to hate him.

yahtzee

7/2/22 11:11am

Since 90% of their fanbase is made up of a bunch of clowns, I’m going with that.

WDaddy

7/2/22 11:44am

Lots of those are Ute fans voting.

Thrill

7/2/22 11:55am

Probably all the Pierre fans

Les IsMore

7/2/22 2:39pm

I know BYU administrators felt pretty jilted when

deljdc

7/2/22 3:24pm

RE: I know BYU administrators felt pretty jilted when

Ursas Puma

7/2/22 6:43pm

BYU fans are idiots. Legitimately as awful as Utah fand. Just in a different

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