That's EXACTLY the point. Those four average the same value as other Big 12 memb

Jul 5, 2022
10:53:16am

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members and thus the reason the Big 12 is willing to evaluate them as new members. This isn't a merger of conferences - this is the Big 12 TAKING those four members because they bring enough value to consider.

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I wonder how this will go:

rainorsnow

7/5/22 10:04am

RE: I wonder how this will go:

Ted Lasso

7/5/22 10:05am

Well, with USC & UCLA gone they kind of have to don't they?

Spiff

7/5/22 10:06am

RE: I wonder how this will go:

Romex

7/5/22 10:06am

RE: I wonder how this will go:

SausageKing

7/5/22 10:06am

live look at the negotiations

CougarTwins

7/5/22 10:07am

P12: "You should give us more money." TV People: "Yeah, that ain't happening"

cougarmeister

7/5/22 10:07am

RE: I wonder how this will go:

slappy

7/5/22 10:07am

So they can start getting less money sooner?

backprop

7/5/22 10:07am

My thoughts exactly.

COACHdrn

7/5/22 1:18pm

RE: I wonder how this will go:

Y_Mountain_Magic

7/5/22 10:08am

ESPN be like:

Turnpike Lane

7/5/22 10:08am

Sounds like they all want to know how bad it is before they decide to leave.

Pee Wee Reese

7/5/22 10:08am

And that is it. Want to know it be better to stay together with what they get, or bail to B12 if offered.

Turnpike Lane

7/5/22 10:09am

Expansion could be part of the discussion with the TV folks.

Eddie

7/5/22 10:13am

They've already authorized an exploration of expansion.

Baylorbears11

7/5/22 10:15am

I can tell them right now. If no one leaves, they’ll be on par with the ACC

BamaCoug

7/5/22 12:19pm

I think the conference is trying lock in GOR like the ACC.

BYUHgrad

7/5/22 1:06pm

Looks like the rest of her statement cut off....

NOCAL_YFAN

7/5/22 10:08am

RE: I wonder how this will go:

byuluvr

7/5/22 10:08am

Oregon and Washington when they see the preliminary #s:

Huge Manatee

7/5/22 10:08am

And, ironically, ANY of those stations would be better than the P12 Network.

lbmango

7/5/22 10:09am

RE: I wonder how this will go:

braddahmike

7/5/22 10:09am

ESPN and Fox:

Gustav

7/5/22 10:10am

Weren't they already in negotiations?

NOCAL_YFAN

7/5/22 10:11am

RE: Weren't they already in negotiations?

rainorsnow

7/5/22 10:25am

Why would ANY media company do any negotiation with the P12 right now?

lbmango

7/5/22 10:12am

RE: Why would ANY media company do any negotiation with the P12 right now?

Huge Manatee

7/5/22 10:13am

I do think some of the streaming only platforms want in on the market...

moknowssports

7/5/22 10:20am

There's going to be a lot of hypothetical talks

krindorr

7/5/22 10:43am

BYUTV would like a word

kiyoshige

7/5/22 12:48pm

Lock in GOR with UO and UW still in it.

BYUHgrad

7/5/22 1:07pm

Is it a way to lock in the remaining members with a new GOR? Of course, if the

NewMexiCoug

7/5/22 10:14am

That's asking to bid on a lot of uncertainty

BYU Fan

7/5/22 10:22am

Maybe they can bring Larry Scott back as a consultant.

UNLVcougar

7/5/22 10:25am

I would think both the pac 12 and big 12 are negotiating which combination of

Utefaninenemyland

7/5/22 10:26am

You would be very wrong.

Baylorbears11

7/5/22 10:35am

Really? You don’t think both conferences are speaking to their respective media

Utefaninenemyland

7/5/22 10:46am

Pac HAS to negotiate a new deal. That's where they are currently at with their..

Sock Gnome

7/5/22 10:50am

The Big 12 already knows their media value.

Baylorbears11

7/5/22 10:58am

RE: The Big 12 already knows their media value.

krindorr

7/5/22 11:18am

Pretty reasonable take, actually. I could pick at a few points but

kos

7/5/22 12:14pm

Yep. Big12 much stronger here.

BYUButters

7/5/22 4:20pm

I'm not sure you understand reality. The Pac is negotiating their new media..

Sock Gnome

7/5/22 10:48am

From Dodds article today.

Utefaninenemyland

7/5/22 10:50am

That's EXACTLY the point. Those four average the same value as other Big 12 memb

Sock Gnome

7/5/22 10:53am

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the PAC12 is trying to determine...

Eddie

7/5/22 10:52am

Oh, I'm sure that's what they're hoping. But they have no leverage. In order to

Sock Gnome

7/5/22 10:55am

I think the Big 12 exit fee of two years conference payout (about $80M) would

Stalwart Man

7/5/22 11:24am

If 4 more leave the Big 12, they (+OU/UT) could do so without any payments/rights loss. Which makes ESPN a threat

krindorr

7/5/22 11:38am

You seem to get it. The greatest value is not in picking off 3 or 4 schools

Utefaninenemyland

7/5/22 12:09pm

If it was my choice, I'd have taken the PAC in a second until last year

BYU Fan

7/5/22 11:13am

I hadn't thought of that scenario, but the challenge is that those schools have

civilcoug

7/5/22 12:39pm

I assume he means Oregon St, not Oklahoma St

krindorr

7/5/22 12:46pm

That is why some national guys think some combination break off and form a new

Utefaninenemyland

7/5/22 1:03pm

Hahahahahaha!!!

BritishCoug

7/5/22 11:33am

RE: I wonder how this will go:

bluegaucho

7/5/22 11:35am

B12 needs to act now. If negotiation goes well, it could hold the Pac12 together

Hill4Heisman

7/5/22 11:59am

Big 12 is acting. That's why they called the negotiation now and not next month.

Baylorbears11

7/5/22 12:06pm

They are trying to lock down Washington and Oregon with a new GORs

runningryan

7/5/22 12:23pm

I guess they have no other choice but with 45% of their viewership walking it is

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