Oh, I'm sure that's what they're hoping. But they have no leverage. In order to

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Jul 5, 2022
10:55:01am

Sock Gnome All-American

Oh, I'm sure that's what they're hoping. But they have no leverage. In order to

steal teams from the Big 12, they would have to offer them a bigger portion of the pie than the current members of the Pac. Oregon and Washington aren't going to accept this. This is why the Pac is toast. They have to negotiate their new media deal with absolutely zero leverage. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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I wonder how this will go:

rainorsnow

7/5/22 10:04am

RE: I wonder how this will go:

Ted Lasso

7/5/22 10:05am

Well, with USC & UCLA gone they kind of have to don't they?

Spiff

7/5/22 10:06am

RE: I wonder how this will go:

Romex

7/5/22 10:06am

RE: I wonder how this will go:

SausageKing

7/5/22 10:06am

live look at the negotiations

CougarTwins

7/5/22 10:07am

P12: "You should give us more money." TV People: "Yeah, that ain't happening"

7/5/22 10:07am

RE: I wonder how this will go:

slappy

7/5/22 10:07am

So they can start getting less money sooner?

backprop

7/5/22 10:07am

My thoughts exactly.

COACHdrn

7/5/22 1:18pm

RE: I wonder how this will go:

Y_Mountain_Magic

7/5/22 10:08am

ESPN be like:

7/5/22 10:08am

Sounds like they all want to know how bad it is before they decide to leave.

7/5/22 10:08am

And that is it. Want to know it be better to stay together with what they get, or bail to B12 if offered.

7/5/22 10:09am

Expansion could be part of the discussion with the TV folks.

Eddie

7/5/22 10:13am

They've already authorized an exploration of expansion.

Baylorbears11

7/5/22 10:15am

I can tell them right now. If no one leaves, they’ll be on par with the ACC

BamaCoug

7/5/22 12:19pm

I think the conference is trying lock in GOR like the ACC.

BYUHgrad

7/5/22 1:06pm

Looks like the rest of her statement cut off....

NOCAL_YFAN

7/5/22 10:08am

RE: I wonder how this will go:

byuluvr

7/5/22 10:08am

Oregon and Washington when they see the preliminary #s:

7/5/22 10:08am

And, ironically, ANY of those stations would be better than the P12 Network.

lbmango

7/5/22 10:09am

RE: I wonder how this will go:

braddahmike

7/5/22 10:09am

ESPN and Fox:

Gustav

7/5/22 10:10am

Weren't they already in negotiations?

NOCAL_YFAN

7/5/22 10:11am

RE: Weren't they already in negotiations?

rainorsnow

7/5/22 10:25am

Why would ANY media company do any negotiation with the P12 right now?

lbmango

7/5/22 10:12am

RE: Why would ANY media company do any negotiation with the P12 right now?

7/5/22 10:13am

I do think some of the streaming only platforms want in on the market...

7/5/22 10:20am

There's going to be a lot of hypothetical talks

krindorr

7/5/22 10:43am

BYUTV would like a word

kiyoshige

7/5/22 12:48pm

Lock in GOR with UO and UW still in it.

BYUHgrad

7/5/22 1:07pm

Is it a way to lock in the remaining members with a new GOR? Of course, if the

NewMexiCoug

7/5/22 10:14am

That's asking to bid on a lot of uncertainty

BYU Fan

7/5/22 10:22am

Maybe they can bring Larry Scott back as a consultant.

UNLVcougar

7/5/22 10:25am

I would think both the pac 12 and big 12 are negotiating which combination of

Utefaninenemyland

7/5/22 10:26am

You would be very wrong.

Baylorbears11

7/5/22 10:35am

Really? You don’t think both conferences are speaking to their respective media

Utefaninenemyland

7/5/22 10:46am

Pac HAS to negotiate a new deal. That's where they are currently at with their..

Sock Gnome

7/5/22 10:50am

The Big 12 already knows their media value.

Baylorbears11

7/5/22 10:58am

RE: The Big 12 already knows their media value.

krindorr

7/5/22 11:18am

Pretty reasonable take, actually. I could pick at a few points but

kos

7/5/22 12:14pm

Yep. Big12 much stronger here.

BYUButters

7/5/22 4:20pm

I'm not sure you understand reality. The Pac is negotiating their new media..

Sock Gnome

7/5/22 10:48am

From Dodds article today.

Utefaninenemyland

7/5/22 10:50am

That's EXACTLY the point. Those four average the same value as other Big 12 memb

Sock Gnome

7/5/22 10:53am

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the PAC12 is trying to determine...

Eddie

7/5/22 10:52am

Oh, I'm sure that's what they're hoping. But they have no leverage. In order to

Sock Gnome

7/5/22 10:55am

I think the Big 12 exit fee of two years conference payout (about $80M) would

Stalwart Man

7/5/22 11:24am

If 4 more leave the Big 12, they (+OU/UT) could do so without any payments/rights loss. Which makes ESPN a threat

krindorr

7/5/22 11:38am

You seem to get it. The greatest value is not in picking off 3 or 4 schools

Utefaninenemyland

7/5/22 12:09pm

If it was my choice, I'd have taken the PAC in a second until last year

BYU Fan

7/5/22 11:13am

I hadn't thought of that scenario, but the challenge is that those schools have

civilcoug

7/5/22 12:39pm

I assume he means Oregon St, not Oklahoma St

krindorr

7/5/22 12:46pm

That is why some national guys think some combination break off and form a new

Utefaninenemyland

7/5/22 1:03pm

Hahahahahaha!!!

BritishCoug

7/5/22 11:33am

RE: I wonder how this will go:

bluegaucho

7/5/22 11:35am

B12 needs to act now. If negotiation goes well, it could hold the Pac12 together

Hill4Heisman

7/5/22 11:59am

Big 12 is acting. That's why they called the negotiation now and not next month.

Baylorbears11

7/5/22 12:06pm

They are trying to lock down Washington and Oregon with a new GORs

runningryan

7/5/22 12:23pm

I guess they have no other choice but with 45% of their viewership walking it is

Forzaitalia

7/5/22 3:28pm

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