In the average American diet it is carbs that are contributing to excess caloric

Apr 23, 2023
4:03:18pm

Charles Darwin Playmaker

intake. Specifically it is from the breads that we eat. We were taught for generations breads and grains were good fats and sugars were bad. We eat them to excess because they are “good”. Until we see the culprit nothing is going to change

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What factors have contributed to the increase in numbers

Archaea

4/23/23 3:30pm

Getting 2,200 calories in a $7 pizza vs 700 in a $12 salad is a factor.

BlueVU

4/23/23 3:32pm

Cost of good food.

Archaea

4/23/23 3:32pm

Nah. There are healthier choices for cheaper. But they might require

Plato

4/23/23 3:37pm

I think you are proving his point

cougaman

4/23/23 3:57pm

Processed food, fast food, sugary drinks. Not moving.

Samsonite

4/23/23 3:32pm

Same observation.

Archaea

4/23/23 3:33pm

Add to that, many professions work long hours and are fairly sedintary

spugeddy24

4/23/23 3:34pm

Especially if commuting 1-2 hours a day + working 8

1984coug

4/23/23 3:42pm

Yes, diet and physical exercise are important!

Fervent Cougar

4/23/23 3:32pm

Move less and taught from a young age that carbs are what you should eat

Charles Darwin

4/23/23 3:33pm

Blaming carbs as a whole is ridiculous.

allaboutthegainz

4/23/23 3:35pm

It is grains. They dominate the American diet

Charles Darwin

4/23/23 3:36pm

It’s actually not. People eat way too many carby foods.

Samsonite

4/23/23 3:36pm

People eat too much food. It’s all calories in vs calories out.

allaboutthegainz

4/23/23 3:37pm

And what do you think is the form of most of those calories?

Charles Darwin

4/23/23 3:38pm

It is and it isn’t. I lost a lot of weight counting calories and have kept it off. I have found that as I manage my

Samsonite

4/23/23 3:38pm

Right. You ate less calories and lost weight. For you, cutting carbs helped.

allaboutthegainz

4/23/23 3:40pm

I do agree that going complete Atkins or Keto isn’t sustainable for most. My approach is counting calories and trying

Samsonite

4/23/23 3:43pm

Horse hockey!

Snipe

4/23/23 3:43pm

Simply put this is the case… but there is a lot of complexity to WHY people over

kotacoug

4/23/23 3:53pm

Quantity first, quality second but both are issues

yahtzee

4/23/23 8:03pm

WoW describes grains as ‘the staff of life’. Best data & food science agrees.

BYU'01

4/23/23 4:14pm

Section 89 does, I haven’t heard the modern word of wisdom tell us to eat grain

4mack

4/23/23 4:27pm

Where do I access the ‘modern’ edition? Best science still points to the same.

BYU'01

4/23/23 4:35pm

Processed carbs are awful for you.

Samsonite

4/23/23 4:40pm

Processing tends to strip nutrients like dietary fiber & adds sugar & sodium

BYU'01

4/23/23 4:46pm

This is terrible advice.

Samsonite

4/23/23 4:52pm

Show some data or peer-reviewed science supporting your position

BYU'01

4/23/23 4:59pm

DYOR.

Samsonite

4/23/23 5:00pm

I have. It is remarkably consistent with best data available and the WoW.

BYU'01

4/23/23 5:08pm

What’s your body fat %

Samsonite

4/23/23 5:16pm

Link

BYU'01

4/23/23 5:34pm

If this were true the characteristically lean populations of East Asia wouldt be

chismoso

4/23/23 3:45pm

They don’t eat as many carbs as we do

Charles Darwin

4/23/23 3:49pm

You are missing the point. They still eat a lot of carbs. Far less sugar

chismoso

4/23/23 3:53pm

Sugars are carbs

Charles Darwin

4/23/23 3:55pm

I know sugars are carbs. You are still missing the point

chismoso

4/23/23 3:57pm

In the average American diet it is carbs that are contributing to excess caloric

Charles Darwin

4/23/23 4:03pm

Im glad you figured it out. The problem is excess calories

chismoso

4/23/23 4:10pm

You have no interest in where the calories are coming from

Charles Darwin

4/23/23 4:20pm

If you think people are obese because of carbs I dont know how to help you

chismoso

4/23/23 4:35pm

Exactly. The majority of their calories come from carbs. They just eat less.

allaboutthegainz

4/23/23 3:59pm

Living life screen to screen to screen.

StrongBad

4/23/23 3:34pm

In addition - ability to afford and buy more high calorie foods. More sedentary, less physically demanding jobs

Zenoch

4/23/23 3:36pm

Processed food is No. 1; Sugar added to everything is No. 2

2FarGone

4/23/23 3:37pm

Take 10 overweight people from 10 different parts of the country

Medute

4/23/23 3:37pm

I mean, I do get it. Eating right takes planning and discipline. It’s a lot easier to get a combo meal from a fast food

Samsonite

4/23/23 3:41pm

You don’t require “eating right” to be skinny

Medute

4/23/23 3:53pm

I don’t know how you can say you don’t have to eat right to be healthy.

Samsonite

4/23/23 3:56pm

It’s not a hard quote to repeat correct - “eating right to be skinny”

Medute

4/23/23 4:04pm

Seed & vegetable oil. Processed food much of which is marketed as healthy

4mack

4/23/23 3:38pm

We have foods that are designed to be addictive.

supersix

4/23/23 3:41pm

Here's the obvious...having lived it.

TrueBlue67

4/23/23 3:45pm

Good work. We all grew up with the absolute lie of the “food pyramid”, which will kill you.

Samsonite

4/23/23 3:49pm

150 grams of carbs ? Is that what you are saying? Or 150 calories from carbs.

kotacoug

4/23/23 3:50pm

150 grams of carbs per day. I don't care where they come from.

TrueBlue67

4/23/23 3:52pm

How many calories do you eat in a day? Are you logging it with an app?

Magneto

4/23/23 10:44pm

I don't pay attention to calories at all. I focus on a balanced diet and keep my

TrueBlue67

4/24/23 10:17am

Congrats. Eating healthy (actually healthy) is extremely difficult especially

Chefcurry

4/23/23 3:52pm

Inspiring. Thanks for sharing your story. Hope it leads to a long life for you.

ldssdl

4/23/23 4:28pm

The best peer-reviewed food science still shows 55-60% of your avg kcal/day

BYU'01

4/23/23 4:34pm

This is terrible advice.

Samsonite

4/23/23 4:42pm

Please cite your peer-reviewed scientific data

BYU'01

4/23/23 4:47pm

You posted a government funded “study”. Might as well have posted the food pyramid.

Samsonite

4/23/23 4:52pm

I cited a 165 pages summarizing the best peer reviewed research available

BYU'01

4/23/23 4:58pm

No, I didn’t read 165 pages. I looked at the summary and who funded the “study”. It’s the same people that preached

Samsonite

4/23/23 5:00pm

It’s not a study. It’s a summary of #00s of studies: BEST data avail. Your data?

BYU'01

4/23/23 5:04pm

My data is that I limit carbs and I’m very healthy. The healthiest people I know do the same.

Samsonite

4/23/23 5:22pm

No wonder MLMs are so pervasive. Do you hate all sciences? Just medicine & diet?

BYU'01

4/23/23 5:33pm

Diet advise from government is historically awful.

Samsonite

4/25/23 12:07pm

Like I said, this has only been my journey. Take it for what it is worth, which

TrueBlue67

4/23/23 6:11pm

‘Times of famine’ specifically references flesh of beasts, fowl, animals

BYU'01

4/23/23 6:20pm

To each his own...

TrueBlue67

4/23/23 6:30pm

The WOW was given at a time when food was seasonal.

Mises

4/23/23 8:34pm

I love hearing this! So good for you!

Lefty24

4/23/23 8:51pm

Fast, easy to attain calorie dense food. Push of upsizing everything. We are

kotacoug

4/23/23 3:48pm

Too many calories. The end

chismoso

4/23/23 3:49pm

In the not too distant future, 1/3 of Americans will have type 2 diabetes

Ten_Hour_Drives

4/23/23 3:52pm

Lots of reasons but corn syrup is among them.

panacablue

4/23/23 4:05pm

The food pyramid. Total crock of rubbish that destroyed a generation's health

doctorcoug

4/23/23 4:29pm

Insulin problems.

calvindyer

4/23/23 4:46pm

It is expensive to eat healthy.

BYUtka

4/23/23 4:56pm

This is really a myth or excuse. It isn’t… it takes will power and effort though

kotacoug

4/23/23 5:09pm

Absolutely

BYU'01

4/23/23 5:16pm

It absolutely is true. Pretending it is a myth doesn't help anyone.

BYUtka

4/23/23 6:26pm

Using it as an excuse hurts more

kotacoug

4/23/23 6:40pm

No one is "using it as an excuse."

BYUtka

4/23/23 8:39pm

I disagree. My wife and I eat very healthy and our food budget is $350/month, up

TrueBlue67

4/23/23 7:11pm

The data & science is remarkably consistent: sedentary, processed foods ->

BYU'01

4/23/23 5:14pm

Define processed food

Charles Darwin

4/23/23 5:19pm

I enjoy cooked food. Generally, too much added processed sugar, fats & NO3s

BYU'01

4/23/23 6:55pm

Your link has the exact same categories as mine doesn’t it?

Charles Darwin

4/23/23 7:05pm

Obesity impacted by dietary patterns incl. too many kcals & sedentary life style

BYU'01

4/23/23 8:08pm

McDonald's and not working outside or so lack of locomotion and exercise

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