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May 31, 2023
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Virginia Ute
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No I didn’t. He said b12 remnants were the “real winners”. They’re not.
It’s great they survived (for now), but to imply that they made it out of this the best is funny.
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The last 13 years, the real winners of expansion aren't who you think they are.
Turnpike Lane
5/31/23 1:08pm
Of course those are the real winners
2FarGone
5/31/23 1:09pm
At least for a little while, until the BIG comes calling
GlutealGuy
5/31/23 1:20pm
What a joke! Clearly you don't recognize who we are...
moknowssports
5/31/23 2:12pm
A league with no guerillas.... can't wait.
Mitty
5/31/23 1:24pm
Those "winners" would take Texas, OU, A&M, or any of those teams back in a heartbeat.
Virginia Ute
5/31/23 1:27pm
You missed the point. They lost them, but still stayed relevant.
Turnpike Lane
5/31/23 1:31pm
If the P12 survives this round, both they and the B12 will again be fighting for relevance in 4 years when they are
Virginia Ute
5/31/23 1:33pm
Yeah, but the Big 12 has been through contract negotiations w/o them already
Belboz
5/31/23 1:40pm
I guess it depends on what your definition of “win” is.
Virginia Ute
5/31/23 1:44pm
Yeah, you missed the point (an easy one to grasp).... read for comprehension.
Benfica1
5/31/23 1:46pm
No I didn’t. He said b12 remnants were the “real winners”. They’re not.
Virginia Ute
5/31/23 1:48pm
They have a much better media deal than the B12 w/ TX & OU and the PAC.
Benfica1
5/31/23 2:17pm
You know darn well that a renegotiation this year with Texas and OU would have been more lucrative.
Virginia Ute
5/31/23 2:28pm
At this point you are either not smart or just being obtuse.
Benfica1
5/31/23 2:39pm
Personal attacks by you tell me that I've done well. Thx. Also relax
Virginia Ute
5/31/23 2:49pm
Compared to where Baylor, Texas Tech, etc. started, they're worse off now
Belboz
5/31/23 3:06pm
RE: I guess it depends on what your definition of “win” is.
Doogal McCougar
5/31/23 1:49pm
The Big 12 lost Oklahoma and Texas and still signed a big media contract
Belboz
5/31/23 1:53pm
But would you say that they’re the “real winners”? What does that statement mean to you?
Virginia Ute
5/31/23 1:57pm
Well, they're definitely not fake or imaginary winners
Belboz
5/31/23 2:02pm
Don't even try to be logical. He's in too deep to accept the loss.
Benfica1
5/31/23 2:18pm
Accept my loss? Ok, guy.
Virginia Ute
5/31/23 2:31pm
I get it, misery loves company. You are trying to drag the Big 12 down to where the PAC is, but it's not happening.
slatecoug
5/31/23 2:27pm
This isn't about B12 vs P12. He said that the B12 remnants are the "real winners." They're not, that would be the SEC
Virginia Ute
5/31/23 2:30pm
It's not really about BYU either. It's about Iowa State, Kansas, Baylor, etc.
Belboz
5/31/23 3:03pm
Exactly. And my point is they didn’t win bigger than B10 and SEC teams.
Virginia Ute
5/31/23 3:05pm
When you look like you're about to loose Power status, and now you are the clear #3 Conf, how's that anything but a win?
slatecoug
6/1/23 12:41am
Of course they are the real winners.
slatecoug
6/1/23 12:34am
You keep trying to compare where the Big 12 is and where the PAC remnants are as being on equal footing, but that's not
slatecoug
5/31/23 2:22pm
Nope, I'm comparing to the "real winners," B10 and SEC. I'm using the P12 as a comparison to show why that is the case.
Virginia Ute
5/31/23 2:31pm
For some reason the PAC remnants keep pushing the fallacy of a Big, but as long as the B1G has so many bottom dwellers
slatecoug
6/1/23 12:37am
The Big 12 and the PAC remnants are in very different situations right now.
slatecoug
5/31/23 2:20pm
RE: Those "winners" would take Texas, OU, A&M, or any of those teams back in a heartbeat.
-C9-
5/31/23 4:16pm
They also are the winners because they have seen the underbelly of the Ute
BYUheaven
5/31/23 1:32pm
Maybe "non-losers" or "still-did-okayers." Hard to call those schools winners.
Roko's Basilisk
5/31/23 3:02pm
I mean they didn’t lose but I wouldn’t say they won yet. They survive to
FieroCoug
5/31/23 3:32pm
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