It's not really about BYU either. It's about Iowa State, Kansas, Baylor, etc.

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May 31, 2023
3:03:21pm

Belboz All-American

It's not really about BYU either. It's about Iowa State, Kansas, Baylor, etc.

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Belboz

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The last 13 years, the real winners of expansion aren't who you think they are.

5/31/23 1:08pm

Of course those are the real winners

2FarGone

5/31/23 1:09pm

At least for a little while, until the BIG comes calling

GlutealGuy

5/31/23 1:20pm

What a joke! Clearly you don't recognize who we are...

5/31/23 2:12pm

A league with no guerillas.... can't wait.

Mitty

5/31/23 1:24pm

Those "winners" would take Texas, OU, A&M, or any of those teams back in a heartbeat.

5/31/23 1:27pm

You missed the point. They lost them, but still stayed relevant.

5/31/23 1:31pm

If the P12 survives this round, both they and the B12 will again be fighting for relevance in 4 years when they are

5/31/23 1:33pm

Yeah, but the Big 12 has been through contract negotiations w/o them already

Belboz

5/31/23 1:40pm

I guess it depends on what your definition of “win” is.

5/31/23 1:44pm

Yeah, you missed the point (an easy one to grasp).... read for comprehension.

Benfica1

5/31/23 1:46pm

No I didn’t. He said b12 remnants were the “real winners”. They’re not.

5/31/23 1:48pm

They have a much better media deal than the B12 w/ TX & OU and the PAC.

Benfica1

5/31/23 2:17pm

You know darn well that a renegotiation this year with Texas and OU would have been more lucrative.

5/31/23 2:28pm

At this point you are either not smart or just being obtuse.

Benfica1

5/31/23 2:39pm

Personal attacks by you tell me that I've done well. Thx. Also relax

5/31/23 2:49pm

Compared to where Baylor, Texas Tech, etc. started, they're worse off now

Belboz

5/31/23 3:06pm

RE: I guess it depends on what your definition of “win” is.

Doogal McCougar

5/31/23 1:49pm

The Big 12 lost Oklahoma and Texas and still signed a big media contract

Belboz

5/31/23 1:53pm

But would you say that they’re the “real winners”? What does that statement mean to you?

5/31/23 1:57pm

Well, they're definitely not fake or imaginary winners

Belboz

5/31/23 2:02pm

Don't even try to be logical. He's in too deep to accept the loss.

Benfica1

5/31/23 2:18pm

Accept my loss? Ok, guy.

5/31/23 2:31pm

I get it, misery loves company. You are trying to drag the Big 12 down to where the PAC is, but it's not happening.

slatecoug

5/31/23 2:27pm

This isn't about B12 vs P12. He said that the B12 remnants are the "real winners." They're not, that would be the SEC

5/31/23 2:30pm

It's not really about BYU either. It's about Iowa State, Kansas, Baylor, etc.

Belboz

5/31/23 3:03pm

Exactly. And my point is they didn’t win bigger than B10 and SEC teams.

5/31/23 3:05pm

When you look like you're about to loose Power status, and now you are the clear #3 Conf, how's that anything but a win?

slatecoug

6/1/23 12:41am

Of course they are the real winners.

slatecoug

6/1/23 12:34am

You keep trying to compare where the Big 12 is and where the PAC remnants are as being on equal footing, but that's not

slatecoug

5/31/23 2:22pm

Nope, I'm comparing to the "real winners," B10 and SEC. I'm using the P12 as a comparison to show why that is the case.

5/31/23 2:31pm

For some reason the PAC remnants keep pushing the fallacy of a Big, but as long as the B1G has so many bottom dwellers

slatecoug

6/1/23 12:37am

The Big 12 and the PAC remnants are in very different situations right now.

slatecoug

5/31/23 2:20pm

RE: Those "winners" would take Texas, OU, A&M, or any of those teams back in a heartbeat.

-C9-

5/31/23 4:16pm

They also are the winners because they have seen the underbelly of the Ute

BYUheaven

5/31/23 1:32pm

Maybe "non-losers" or "still-did-okayers." Hard to call those schools winners.

Roko's Basilisk

5/31/23 3:02pm

I mean they didn’t lose but I wouldn’t say they won yet. They survive to

FieroCoug

5/31/23 3:32pm

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