I guess just how much our public education used to hide our failings

Apr 9, 2024
10:11:46pm

OU Cougar All-American

I think we’ve changed overall from unrealistic history to more objective, in all our institutions.

It’s just interesting to me to have experienced this shift in my lifetime

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Just watched a WW2 documentary. 49 US Soldiers were convicted of rape in France

OU Cougar

Apr 9, 9:30pm

Not true. Eisenhower didn’t “personally order” them hanged.

valleus

Apr 9, 9:39pm

And the brothel was shut down within a day of being opened.

valleus

Apr 9, 9:40pm

I’m just parroting the documentary “Hidden Side of World War2” on Prime

OU Cougar

Apr 9, 9:41pm

I'm sort of surprised you weren't there.

Belboz

Apr 9, 9:55pm

It is fun to watch Patton and realize one of our greatest generals believed in

OU Cougar

Apr 9, 10:03pm

Maybe the documentary said it was ordered by Eisenhower?

BleedCougarBlue2

Apr 9, 9:42pm

He ordered the hangings and that they be done in public for all to see is what

OU Cougar

Apr 9, 9:47pm

If it did, then that’s a sign of incredible ignorance. US commanders don’t have

valleus

Apr 10, 2:18pm

Delete this. US servicemen’s actions were nominal compared to the others

Revolution

Apr 9, 9:40pm

Delete it? Say what?

BleedCougarBlue2

Apr 9, 9:42pm

This article seems to confirm the research but I agree

OU Cougar

Apr 9, 9:45pm

I think it’s odd that this surprises you.

Shawarma

Apr 9, 10:08pm

I guess just how much our public education used to hide our failings

OU Cougar

Apr 9, 10:11pm

I can’t speak to who hasn’t been telling you what, but this is just digging up

Shawarma

Apr 9, 10:31pm

History was always my favorite subject. Maybe it was still too fresh in late

AF_Puma

Apr 10, 6:56am

Still does not make it okay. To pretend all our service men are perfect is silly

thor1991

Apr 9, 9:57pm

Who is pretending this?

Shawarma

Apr 9, 10:40pm

It was more a general comment on how some people tend to venerate the armed

thor1991

Apr 10, 2:44am

Ha ha. "Delete this. I don't want to see facts I don't like."

gangbusters

Apr 10, 8:12am

So these actions are okay to you I guess?

doodle_all_day

Apr 10, 4:02pm

The scale and organization of those groups seem to differ greatly. There is also

vagabonder

Apr 9, 9:46pm

Life magazine at the time reported that Americans went over there thinking

OU Cougar

Apr 9, 9:49pm

Hedonist…. I question that meaning… are we all not seeking pleasure… I suppose

Pretorian

Apr 10, 8:36am

Yeah. Those facts have out there for a long time. Doesn't diminish ...

KCFan85

Apr 9, 10:20pm

The natural man knows no culture or race. But I bet US soldiers were way more

Idacoug

Apr 9, 9:59pm

It is shameful to pretend a moral equivalency between American military

Gate5

Apr 9, 10:02pm

My wifes family is from Poland. Her two aunts were raped by the Germans going to Russian and more when the Russians

WashingtonCoug

Apr 9, 10:47pm

It didn't take his comments as comparing as much as saying we learn about the other countries in our education system

TheLoneCougar

Apr 10, 3:42am

Wait till you hear about the hundreds of thousands of civilians we intentionally

Plato

Apr 9, 10:07pm

But it's cool if you're a 12 year old...or middle aged white dude on CB

jrifkin48

Apr 10, 1:08am

Weird comment

Carnac

Apr 10, 5:47am

Read "Sergeant Nibley: Memories of an Unlikely Screaming Eagle"

J. Walter Weatherman

Apr 9, 10:48pm

This is unique neither to WWII nor to US soldiers.

zerome4sooners

Apr 10, 5:05am

I served a mission in South Korea. You know nothing of which you speak regarding

TrueBlue67

Apr 10, 6:48am

Your last paragraph is off base. The Japanese encouraged rape as a tool

Real Men Wear Blue

Apr 10, 7:25am

It’s War people… war is terrible, horrendous, it’s probably the worst part of

Pretorian

Apr 10, 8:32am

We were not angels, but we were compared to the rapings of the Japanese and

Schrodizzy

Apr 10, 8:35am

Seems an odd thing to do

RiseUp

Apr 10, 8:35am

Nibley cites the famous quote: "Behold the soldier: when he's hungry- he robs,

J. Walter Weatherman

Apr 10, 8:51am

Right but that’s my point

RiseUp

Apr 10, 9:01am

I don’t think you can dehumanize a person without doing the same to yourself and

Shawarma

Apr 10, 11:07am

You left out the "Marocchinate" in WWII. Wiki has an article worth reading.

Ripliancum

Apr 10, 8:45am

We all have skeletons in our closet. Some skeletons are just bigger than others.

Ham

Apr 10, 8:54am

Dang, crazy how racist we were back then

conetah

Apr 10, 8:57am

Not great to learn about rapes but pleased we were so intolerant of it.

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