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Mar 1, 2013
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icecougar
that's different, Doman was the finest QB Coach in the country...
....according to Bronco
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Not happy with the Howell move. Not at all.
byujacob
3/1/13 11:10am
Shocker
slowhiteguy
3/1/13 11:11am
It's not a move
CoopDizz
3/1/13 11:11am
Bronco is still calling all the plays and will be deeply involved in the D.
mulletino
3/1/13 11:12am
This
yfootball
3/1/13 1:38pm
nothing has changed all that much, it's a title and pay raise
Jericho
3/1/13 11:12am
Did you even read the announcement? It's a title and training.
lawboy
3/1/13 11:12am
I did. I think BYU could have a better DC-in-training than Howell.
byujacob
3/1/13 11:14am
what is it about Howell that makes you think he will perform poorly?
Jericho
3/1/13 11:14am
I think I outlined those reasons in my OP.
byujacob
3/1/13 11:15am
Nothing has changed except his title, you didn't think our D was good last yr?
Jericho
3/1/13 11:16am
I don't think our DB's were our best coached unit on the D...
icecougar
3/1/13 2:30pm
ST has been great besides the bad placekicking
Jericho
3/4/13 8:56am
There have been many breakdowns in coverage as well.
LEDSFW
3/4/13 9:33am
not really, coverage has been pretty good
Jericho
3/4/13 9:37am
I see many times when BYU is disciplined (and especially when Ansah was ....
LEDSFW
3/4/13 9:53am
go look at the numbers, our ST has better numbers in recent years
Jericho
3/4/13 9:56am
I am not arguing the numbers. I am arguing the individual plays.
LEDSFW
3/4/13 10:37am
That isn't what you said, you said there have been many "breakdowns"
Jericho
3/4/13 10:53am
Yes and I pointed them out....
LEDSFW
3/4/13 11:14am
lol, no
Jericho
3/4/13 11:24am
BYU ranked 48th in KORD and 37th in PRD last year.
LEDSFW
3/4/13 11:46am
you just proved my point, what did the 5 years prior to that look like?
Jericho
3/4/13 11:56am
Verey creative interpretation, but 48th and 37th...
LEDSFW
3/4/13 12:00pm
you're just making the point on one year out of 5
Jericho
3/4/13 12:05pm
LOL....
LEDSFW
3/4/13 12:21pm
lol
Jericho
3/4/13 12:23pm
I blame part of that on the high number of starters used on the KOR team
LaserCoug
3/4/13 11:46am
I agree completely.
LEDSFW
3/4/13 11:56am
It keeps those normal bench guys completely involved in the game not just
LaserCoug
3/4/13 12:08pm
Your OP said nothing about him not being able to learn, only that you were
workindev
3/1/13 12:07pm
Interesting observation.....And I hope this comes out like I intend.....
QBfactoryclosed
3/1/13 4:56pm
Yeah, Bronco oozed experience when he got the DC job at OSU then UNM
lawboy
3/1/13 11:15am
I know Yewt fans who feel the same way about Sitake...
icecougar
3/1/13 2:27pm
Pretty sure it's the same as Sitake being DC at Utah
LaserCoug
3/1/13 11:13am
Look for new "Howell" villain in upcoming books folks. ;)
Grit for Brains
3/1/13 11:13am
He seems like a likely candidate for CB's whipping boy
Jericho
3/1/13 11:15am
Agreed. CB always has to have 1-2.
lawboy
3/1/13 11:18am
the new Riley Nelson
icecougar
3/1/13 2:31pm
Is it really a "move", or just formalizing the existing relationship
Indy Coug
3/1/13 11:14am
Nothing is changing. he is just getting more credit and money. chill
jonnnylingo
3/1/13 11:15am
Seems like a petty thing to be upset about
Bronoc
3/1/13 11:16am
Yep, I'm crazy for what looks like a Doman-like promotion on our defense.
byujacob
3/1/13 11:20am
This in no way looks like a Doman like promotion.
Shimmy
3/1/13 11:24am
You're right. Sorry.
byujacob
3/1/13 11:30am
Baseless? Doman was given full reign of the offense with no oversite
Shimmy
3/1/13 11:52am
that's different, Doman was the finest QB Coach in the country...
icecougar
3/1/13 2:33pm
apples and oranges
Jericho
3/1/13 11:25am
Doman like? You are crazing because you're ignoring key points
lawboy
3/1/13 11:27am
how is it Doman-like?
Bronoc
3/1/13 11:27am
Bronco has said he is not changing his involvement
ChopperDave
3/1/13 11:31am
I realize this.
byujacob
3/1/13 11:35am
then why are you freaking out?
Jericho
3/1/13 11:42am
This conversation has become circular.
byujacob
3/1/13 11:43am
just seems like you are freaking out over nothing
Jericho
3/1/13 11:44am
Expressing displeasure =/= freaking out.
byujacob
3/1/13 11:50am
Better check CB's daffynitions for "Freaking Out"...
icecougar
3/1/13 2:34pm
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icecougar
3/1/13 2:32pm
I think you are associating Howell to Bronco as a YES man
Heinz57
3/1/13 11:23am
As one of CB's many "YES MEN" (Not) you might be onto something!
LEDSFW
3/1/13 1:18pm
Nothing much is changing, however, I think Howell will be a good DC eventually
darkcoug
3/1/13 11:35am
is that because the Special Teams unit was so stellar the past coupla seasons?
icecougar
3/1/13 2:36pm
Someone else who keenly observes more than just the surface fodder!
LEDSFW
3/1/13 2:40pm
LOL
RockyBalboa
3/1/13 11:41am
My only significant observation is that as BYU's Special Teams Coordinator...
LEDSFW
3/1/13 1:16pm
...Howell has not set the world on fire. This move is more like KW promoting...
icecougar
3/1/13 2:39pm
Earlier in this thread I mentioned I had been very down on Howell as STC...
LEDSFW
3/4/13 12:36pm
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