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Not happy with the Howell move. Not at all.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:10am

Shocker

slowhiteguy

3/1/13 11:11am

It's not a move

CoopDizz

3/1/13 11:11am

Bronco is still calling all the plays and will be deeply involved in the D.

mulletino

3/1/13 11:12am

This

yfootball

3/1/13 1:38pm

nothing has changed all that much, it's a title and pay raise

Jericho

3/1/13 11:12am

Did you even read the announcement? It's a title and training.

lawboy

3/1/13 11:12am

I did. I think BYU could have a better DC-in-training than Howell.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:14am

what is it about Howell that makes you think he will perform poorly?

Jericho

3/1/13 11:14am

I think I outlined those reasons in my OP.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:15am

Nothing has changed except his title, you didn't think our D was good last yr?

Jericho

3/1/13 11:16am

I don't think our DB's were our best coached unit on the D...

icecougar

3/1/13 2:30pm

ST has been great besides the bad placekicking

Jericho

3/4/13 8:56am

There have been many breakdowns in coverage as well.

LEDSFW

3/4/13 9:33am

not really, coverage has been pretty good

Jericho

3/4/13 9:37am

I see many times when BYU is disciplined (and especially when Ansah was ....

LEDSFW

3/4/13 9:53am

go look at the numbers, our ST has better numbers in recent years

Jericho

3/4/13 9:56am

I am not arguing the numbers. I am arguing the individual plays.

LEDSFW

3/4/13 10:37am

That isn't what you said, you said there have been many "breakdowns"

Jericho

3/4/13 10:53am

Yes and I pointed them out....

LEDSFW

3/4/13 11:14am

lol, no

Jericho

3/4/13 11:24am

BYU ranked 48th in KORD and 37th in PRD last year.

LEDSFW

3/4/13 11:46am

you just proved my point, what did the 5 years prior to that look like?

Jericho

3/4/13 11:56am

Verey creative interpretation, but 48th and 37th...

LEDSFW

3/4/13 12:00pm

you're just making the point on one year out of 5

Jericho

3/4/13 12:05pm

LOL....

LEDSFW

3/4/13 12:21pm

lol

Jericho

3/4/13 12:23pm

I blame part of that on the high number of starters used on the KOR team

LaserCoug

3/4/13 11:46am

I agree completely.

LEDSFW

3/4/13 11:56am

It keeps those normal bench guys completely involved in the game not just

LaserCoug

3/4/13 12:08pm

Your OP said nothing about him not being able to learn, only that you were

workindev

3/1/13 12:07pm

Interesting observation.....And I hope this comes out like I intend.....

QBfactoryclosed

3/1/13 4:56pm

Yeah, Bronco oozed experience when he got the DC job at OSU then UNM

lawboy

3/1/13 11:15am

I know Yewt fans who feel the same way about Sitake...

icecougar

3/1/13 2:27pm

Pretty sure it's the same as Sitake being DC at Utah

LaserCoug

3/1/13 11:13am

Look for new "Howell" villain in upcoming books folks. ;)

Grit for Brains

3/1/13 11:13am

He seems like a likely candidate for CB's whipping boy

Jericho

3/1/13 11:15am

Agreed. CB always has to have 1-2.

lawboy

3/1/13 11:18am

the new Riley Nelson

icecougar

3/1/13 2:31pm

Is it really a "move", or just formalizing the existing relationship

Indy Coug

3/1/13 11:14am

Nothing is changing. he is just getting more credit and money. chill

jonnnylingo

3/1/13 11:15am

Seems like a petty thing to be upset about

Bronoc

3/1/13 11:16am

Yep, I'm crazy for what looks like a Doman-like promotion on our defense.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:20am

This in no way looks like a Doman like promotion.

Shimmy

3/1/13 11:24am

You're right. Sorry.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:30am

Baseless? Doman was given full reign of the offense with no oversite

Shimmy

3/1/13 11:52am

that's different, Doman was the finest QB Coach in the country...

icecougar

3/1/13 2:33pm

apples and oranges

Jericho

3/1/13 11:25am

Doman like? You are crazing because you're ignoring key points

lawboy

3/1/13 11:27am

how is it Doman-like?

Bronoc

3/1/13 11:27am

Bronco has said he is not changing his involvement

ChopperDave

3/1/13 11:31am

I realize this.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:35am

then why are you freaking out?

Jericho

3/1/13 11:42am

This conversation has become circular.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:43am

just seems like you are freaking out over nothing

Jericho

3/1/13 11:44am

Expressing displeasure =/= freaking out.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:50am

Better check CB's daffynitions for "Freaking Out"...

icecougar

3/1/13 2:34pm

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icecougar

3/1/13 2:32pm

I think you are associating Howell to Bronco as a YES man

Heinz57

3/1/13 11:23am

As one of CB's many "YES MEN" (Not) you might be onto something!

LEDSFW

3/1/13 1:18pm

Nothing much is changing, however, I think Howell will be a good DC eventually

darkcoug

3/1/13 11:35am

is that because the Special Teams unit was so stellar the past coupla seasons?

icecougar

3/1/13 2:36pm

Someone else who keenly observes more than just the surface fodder!

LEDSFW

3/1/13 2:40pm

LOL

RockyBalboa

3/1/13 11:41am

My only significant observation is that as BYU's Special Teams Coordinator...

LEDSFW

3/1/13 1:16pm

...Howell has not set the world on fire. This move is more like KW promoting...

icecougar

3/1/13 2:39pm

Earlier in this thread I mentioned I had been very down on Howell as STC...

LEDSFW

3/4/13 12:36pm

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