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Mar 4, 2013
10:37:01am

LEDSFW

I am not arguing the numbers. I am arguing the individual plays.

If a team has 7 very good stops and one bad one, the numbers will still look fine, but the bad one is the one we remember because it allows Oklahoma, TCU, Boise State, Texas, Ol' Miss to get into scoring position and in the Texas game it cost BYU a win.

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LEDSFW

Previous username: whitney64
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Joined: Aug 20, 2003
Last login: Jun 6, 2024
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Not happy with the Howell move. Not at all.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:10am

Shocker

slowhiteguy

3/1/13 11:11am

It's not a move

CoopDizz

3/1/13 11:11am

Bronco is still calling all the plays and will be deeply involved in the D.

mulletino

3/1/13 11:12am

This

yfootball

3/1/13 1:38pm

nothing has changed all that much, it's a title and pay raise

Jericho

3/1/13 11:12am

Did you even read the announcement? It's a title and training.

lawboy

3/1/13 11:12am

I did. I think BYU could have a better DC-in-training than Howell.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:14am

what is it about Howell that makes you think he will perform poorly?

Jericho

3/1/13 11:14am

I think I outlined those reasons in my OP.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:15am

Nothing has changed except his title, you didn't think our D was good last yr?

Jericho

3/1/13 11:16am

I don't think our DB's were our best coached unit on the D...

icecougar

3/1/13 2:30pm

ST has been great besides the bad placekicking

Jericho

3/4/13 8:56am

There have been many breakdowns in coverage as well.

LEDSFW

3/4/13 9:33am

not really, coverage has been pretty good

Jericho

3/4/13 9:37am

I see many times when BYU is disciplined (and especially when Ansah was ....

LEDSFW

3/4/13 9:53am

go look at the numbers, our ST has better numbers in recent years

Jericho

3/4/13 9:56am

I am not arguing the numbers. I am arguing the individual plays.

LEDSFW

3/4/13 10:37am

That isn't what you said, you said there have been many "breakdowns"

Jericho

3/4/13 10:53am

Yes and I pointed them out....

LEDSFW

3/4/13 11:14am

lol, no

Jericho

3/4/13 11:24am

BYU ranked 48th in KORD and 37th in PRD last year.

LEDSFW

3/4/13 11:46am

you just proved my point, what did the 5 years prior to that look like?

Jericho

3/4/13 11:56am

Verey creative interpretation, but 48th and 37th...

LEDSFW

3/4/13 12:00pm

you're just making the point on one year out of 5

Jericho

3/4/13 12:05pm

LOL....

LEDSFW

3/4/13 12:21pm

lol

Jericho

3/4/13 12:23pm

I blame part of that on the high number of starters used on the KOR team

LaserCoug

3/4/13 11:46am

I agree completely.

LEDSFW

3/4/13 11:56am

It keeps those normal bench guys completely involved in the game not just

LaserCoug

3/4/13 12:08pm

Your OP said nothing about him not being able to learn, only that you were

workindev

3/1/13 12:07pm

Interesting observation.....And I hope this comes out like I intend.....

QBfactoryclosed

3/1/13 4:56pm

Yeah, Bronco oozed experience when he got the DC job at OSU then UNM

lawboy

3/1/13 11:15am

I know Yewt fans who feel the same way about Sitake...

icecougar

3/1/13 2:27pm

Pretty sure it's the same as Sitake being DC at Utah

LaserCoug

3/1/13 11:13am

Look for new "Howell" villain in upcoming books folks. ;)

Grit for Brains

3/1/13 11:13am

He seems like a likely candidate for CB's whipping boy

Jericho

3/1/13 11:15am

Agreed. CB always has to have 1-2.

lawboy

3/1/13 11:18am

the new Riley Nelson

icecougar

3/1/13 2:31pm

Is it really a "move", or just formalizing the existing relationship

Indy Coug

3/1/13 11:14am

Nothing is changing. he is just getting more credit and money. chill

jonnnylingo

3/1/13 11:15am

Seems like a petty thing to be upset about

Bronoc

3/1/13 11:16am

Yep, I'm crazy for what looks like a Doman-like promotion on our defense.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:20am

This in no way looks like a Doman like promotion.

Shimmy

3/1/13 11:24am

You're right. Sorry.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:30am

Baseless? Doman was given full reign of the offense with no oversite

Shimmy

3/1/13 11:52am

that's different, Doman was the finest QB Coach in the country...

icecougar

3/1/13 2:33pm

apples and oranges

Jericho

3/1/13 11:25am

Doman like? You are crazing because you're ignoring key points

lawboy

3/1/13 11:27am

how is it Doman-like?

Bronoc

3/1/13 11:27am

Bronco has said he is not changing his involvement

ChopperDave

3/1/13 11:31am

I realize this.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:35am

then why are you freaking out?

Jericho

3/1/13 11:42am

This conversation has become circular.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:43am

just seems like you are freaking out over nothing

Jericho

3/1/13 11:44am

Expressing displeasure =/= freaking out.

byujacob

3/1/13 11:50am

Better check CB's daffynitions for "Freaking Out"...

icecougar

3/1/13 2:34pm

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icecougar

3/1/13 2:32pm

I think you are associating Howell to Bronco as a YES man

Heinz57

3/1/13 11:23am

As one of CB's many "YES MEN" (Not) you might be onto something!

LEDSFW

3/1/13 1:18pm

Nothing much is changing, however, I think Howell will be a good DC eventually

darkcoug

3/1/13 11:35am

is that because the Special Teams unit was so stellar the past coupla seasons?

icecougar

3/1/13 2:36pm

Someone else who keenly observes more than just the surface fodder!

LEDSFW

3/1/13 2:40pm

LOL

RockyBalboa

3/1/13 11:41am

My only significant observation is that as BYU's Special Teams Coordinator...

LEDSFW

3/1/13 1:16pm

...Howell has not set the world on fire. This move is more like KW promoting...

icecougar

3/1/13 2:39pm

Earlier in this thread I mentioned I had been very down on Howell as STC...

LEDSFW

3/4/13 12:36pm

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