FWIW, Damien Mama will be here the week before signing day.

Jan 2, 2014
3:34:14pm

Bob Vance

I think that has a nice feel to it, but certainly no guarantee. I agree with your general points.

My problem is not the recruiting - it is the development.

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Bronco's biggest shortcoming

jonnnylingo

1/2/14 10:27am

I don't think he's a "great" recruiter

donnerstag

1/2/14 10:31am

I do

jonnnylingo

1/2/14 10:34am

He doesn't cater to big time recruits

donnerstag

1/2/14 10:45am

The Shwenke recruiting case pretty much blows your conclusion up

1/2/14 10:48am

You are reading waaaaay too much into his "kids recruit BYU" statement

Freddie Cougar

1/2/14 10:58am

Exactly, people hold on to things he said 5+ years ago. It's ridiculous. If

bluescholar

1/2/14 11:08am

Bronco's recruiting mistakes 4-7 years ago show up today. It's how it works.

Accipiter

1/2/14 11:35am

No one is arguing that, but his recruiting philosophies of 4-7 years ago are

bluescholar

1/2/14 11:38am

While he no longer cuts his nose off to spite recruits

1/2/14 12:05pm

Let it go. Schwenke was wildly overrated anyway.

Freddie Cougar

1/2/14 12:15pm

sourgrapes from a koolaid drinker

1/2/14 2:02pm

Nope, haven't given Kona a second thought in four years

Freddie Cougar

1/2/14 2:07pm

He was a 4-star recruit who has barely seen the field. At the very least that

bluescholar

1/2/14 2:29pm

How many DL has BYU put into the NFL the last 10 years?

1/2/14 3:21pm

BYU definitely has to get better at putting DL in the NFL. I honestly think

bluescholar

1/2/14 3:31pm

we will have to agree to disagree on Kona

1/2/14 3:53pm

Jamora hurts every time I think about it, too. That kid is good.

jkccoug

1/2/14 4:12pm

He plays a lot for ND.

jkccoug

1/2/14 3:41pm

Again, only because of injuries in front of him and this is the first year he's

bluescholar

1/2/14 3:46pm

Ziggy fits that description

donnerstag

1/2/14 3:59pm

Completely different scenario. One was learning the basics of football, one was

bluescholar

1/2/14 4:10pm

One was gaining 50 lbs.

jkccoug

1/2/14 4:11pm

Who? Schwenke put on a ton of weight after his freshman year. He got to ND at

bluescholar

1/2/14 4:21pm

He looked like he knew more than the basics against Boise

donnerstag

1/2/14 4:12pm

Please don't start this non-sense again...that horse has long been dead.

bluescholar

1/2/14 4:17pm

You stated that he wasn't playing because he was learning the basics

donnerstag

1/2/14 4:24pm

Not really. He's still learning a lot of the basics of football.

bluescholar

1/2/14 4:43pm

I'm saying that sometimes good players are left on the bench

donnerstag

1/2/14 5:05pm

I don't think that's the case in either of these scenarios.

bluescholar

1/2/14 5:14pm

Ziggy could have played a role as a junior

donnerstag

1/2/14 5:20pm

He played some situationally as a junior and it was generally a train wreck.

bluescholar

1/2/14 5:22pm

Getting beat out by Louis Nix is no shame.

jkccoug

1/2/14 4:01pm

Who wouldn't want a free recruiting trip to Notre Dame?

donnerstag

1/2/14 4:06pm

The recruiting trip to Notre Dame was supposed to be a fun trip

1/2/14 4:57pm

I never said it was. I even said above that I thought he would get playing time

bluescholar

1/2/14 4:14pm

I'm actually very informed about BYU's recruiting, but please educate me on what

bluescholar

1/2/14 12:30pm

FWIW, Damien Mama will be here the week before signing day.

Bob Vance

1/2/14 3:34pm

I know, and I'd love to see him prove me wrong.

bluescholar

1/2/14 3:51pm

maybe the words to him will be - "we are thinking of changing our fast

Bob Vance

1/2/14 4:23pm

Quote: "They run that spread, high-tempo and I’m kind of used to that."

AF Cougar

1/3/14 11:46am

Ummh... do you even remember the Shwenke case?

1/2/14 11:17am

That was four years ago.

Freddie Cougar

1/2/14 11:25am

Umm...do you realize that Bronco now allows committed players to take visits

bluescholar

1/2/14 11:25am

I agree. Schwenke situation makes me angry.

jkccoug

1/2/14 3:41pm

The Schwenke case actually doesn't run contrary to anything he said. As you will

bluescholar

1/2/14 11:04am

They way I look at this season and Anae

Freddie Cougar

1/2/14 10:35am

The "first year OC" part I disagree with...mainly because while the scheme is

Accipiter

1/2/14 11:00am

Who's giving him a pass?

Freddie Cougar

1/2/14 11:06am

I agree he is a good recruiter

Jericho

1/2/14 10:54am

Answer: Pleasing CB

reagan21

1/2/14 10:55am

Developing players and depth through lack of practice.

Bluedomination

1/2/14 11:18am

Recruiting, Creativity, Flexibility/Adjustments and Innovation.

BDAWG

1/2/14 11:34am

His defenses are very creative and flexible

Freddie Cougar

1/2/14 1:53pm

There are two sides to the ball. The offense creativity is what I am

BDAWG

1/2/14 1:59pm

Again, the paper thin secondary greatly limited what could be done

Freddie Cougar

1/2/14 2:05pm

Bronco is the head coach and tell me about these well timed blitzes?

BDAWG

1/2/14 2:07pm

I still say the recruitment of Oline players is an equal issue.

lawboy

1/2/14 1:46pm

Equal and related

jonnnylingo

1/2/14 3:07pm

Punting inside opponent's 40 yard line - no trust in the offense!

farsurfer

1/2/14 2:47pm

I actually agree 100%.

jkccoug

1/2/14 3:07pm

Agree about the assistants. I think bronco has shortcomings, but some of those

Harrison0Yfan

1/2/14 5:44pm

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