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Jul 30, 2014
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gustav88
Independence got me to my first game in person in years
I know plenty of others for whom the same is true. A good conference would be great, but Indy is plenty fun.
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BYU will start losing fan interest this year.
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 6:18pm
Good to know. Keep us updated.
Runs With Scissors
7/30/14 6:19pm
Chicken Little and UoU fans predicted this when UoU got the PAC 10.2 invite
Coogar2
7/31/14 11:53am
I would like to lose 10% of our fan base.
charles
7/30/14 6:21pm
That is a ton of cash but I'm afraid you're going to get your wish.
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 6:22pm
sooner the better
charles
7/30/14 6:24pm
For BYU, TV is a higher priority than $, so BYU is OK w/ discounting to fill LES
Don't Muff It
7/30/14 7:11pm
As long as I can choose the 10%, Id be ok with it, too
SuperTank
7/30/14 6:54pm
And then they could install movie theatre seats! Can't wait.
Malathion
7/30/14 7:49pm
Hopefully we can ditch independence, yes, but not for a lame conference.
LiveCoug
7/30/14 6:23pm
LOL We're not joining any G5 league until 2019--unless we can keep our ESPN deal
Don't Muff It
7/30/14 6:26pm
And if we join a lame league in 2019, that is a very very bad sign.
LiveCoug
7/30/14 6:30pm
Only join a P5 or equivalent conference. No MWC please!
Archaea
7/30/14 6:40pm
Independence got me to my first game in person in years
gustav88
7/30/14 6:33pm
the valid part of this argument is the lack of fun
Archaea
7/30/14 6:39pm
Which is no different than if we were in the Big12.
PolarisPrime
7/30/14 7:40pm
Not in the SEC.
Archaea
7/30/14 7:42pm
In most years even a team from the SEC would need to be undefeated.
PolarisPrime
7/30/14 7:54pm
$50 says any one loss SEC champion is in the playoff 10 out of 10 years.
unctoothman
7/30/14 8:44pm
That is probably true
PolarisPrime
7/31/14 12:31am
I disagree
ManicBlue
7/31/14 2:16am
As long as we remain a cheap first date, we will always get good attendance.
Josef K
7/30/14 6:36pm
And keep everyone singing "Sweet Caroline"
LV Mike
7/30/14 6:37pm
Maybe we should have Super Diamond come out and lead us.
Josef K
7/30/14 6:40pm
It will lose the well of excitement, to be certain.
Archaea
7/30/14 6:36pm
your shtick is old
binghammer
7/30/14 6:48pm
Ignore me.
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 6:49pm
more fun to laugh at you
binghammer
7/30/14 6:56pm
Well is it getting old or is it funny?
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 6:59pm
the fact that you are such a broken record definitely makes for some amusement
binghammer
7/30/14 7:02pm
So it's not getting old then?
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 7:04pm
It's definitely old, I never said otherwise
binghammer
7/30/14 7:09pm
So it's an English duel huh?
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 7:10pm
Whatever takes the spotlight off you after you say something ignorant
binghammer
7/30/14 7:12pm
Well at least you're optimistic about your 2nd grade education.
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 7:14pm
You corrected it and are now passing with a 75%
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 7:12pm
and your original post is still just as ignorant as it was originally
binghammer
7/30/14 7:14pm
I guess we'll see.
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 7:16pm
Let me know when you change it
binghammer
7/30/14 7:19pm
If we lose the Texas game, come back at the end of the season with attendance #s
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 7:21pm
RE: If we lose the Texas game, come back at the end of the season with
Archaea
7/30/14 7:23pm
No matter how bad my English may be, it will never match your ignorance
binghammer
7/30/14 7:25pm
Again:
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 7:26pm
We've been listening to your rants for 5 years now, I think your body
binghammer
7/30/14 7:30pm
You showed him with your overwhelming onslaught of analysis and wit.
Archaea
7/30/14 7:33pm
Doesn't take much with him, or you actually
binghammer
7/30/14 7:33pm
You might disagree with him, but
Archaea
7/30/14 7:37pm
I've attempted to debate it out with facts
binghammer
7/30/14 7:41pm
Here are the conclusions, as supported by past years.
Archaea
7/30/14 7:44pm
He said "lose interest"
binghammer
7/30/14 7:49pm
Fans will lose interest.
Archaea
7/30/14 7:50pm
sure, him and 4 others with his same problem will throw themselves
binghammer
7/30/14 7:55pm
I know grammar and synatax don't matter to you, but they
Archaea
7/30/14 8:01pm
Ironic that you start in on me about attacking him
binghammer
7/30/14 8:09pm
Pointing out poor writing is NOT an ad hominem attack.
Archaea
7/31/14 8:51am
say what you want
binghammer
7/31/14 10:39am
"weak minds" is an insult by the way. Are you capable of engaging without
Archaea
7/31/14 3:04pm
Just playing on your level bud
binghammer
7/31/14 3:24pm
You haven't identified a single insult by me. You must be confusing my posts
Archaea
7/31/14 4:15pm
It's cool, I'm not mad at you
binghammer
7/31/14 4:37pm
Any examples where I have been proven wrong?
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 7:42pm
You need to wake up, son. BYU football is in a mangled spot. The future is not
OhYePoorFools
8/6/14 3:08pm
I say, I say...
Eddie
8/7/14 1:25pm
hold on while I grab you a box of tissues
binghammer
8/10/14 7:46pm
Holy crap. Your vs. You're. Is it really that difficult?
Hotty-Toddy-Reb
7/30/14 7:02pm
No, he's right, I am shtick is getting a bit old.
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 7:05pm
Can we stop pretending like differentiating you're versus your is a miracle?
QuinneyCoug
7/30/14 7:26pm
You're correct, but it is irritating to see so much bad syntax
Archaea
7/30/14 7:32pm
Did they teach you reading comprehension back when you were in school?
Hotty-Toddy-Reb
7/30/14 7:45pm
This is another example of the sort of annoying behavior we see on the internet.
QuinneyCoug
7/30/14 7:49pm
Hey, I happen to believe that the ability to interpret meaning from a passage...
Hotty-Toddy-Reb
7/30/14 8:15pm
You win. I assemble furniture at IKEA.
QuinneyCoug
7/30/14 8:20pm
You are just as civil mocking him
crazY
7/30/14 8:20pm
I don't even know where to begin with this...
Hotty-Toddy-Reb
7/30/14 8:24pm
Not as much as a bad argument does though
binghammer
7/30/14 7:59pm
at least you're not disagreeing with me...
Hotty-Toddy-Reb
7/30/14 8:19pm
I know the value of a good editor
binghammer
7/30/14 8:30pm
Good job!!! 100% LOL!!!
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 7:24pm
Coming from you this makes ME laugh. Between you and TexasCoug, I'm sure you're
byutx
7/30/14 10:10pm
I dont take issue with legitimate complaints and concerns, of which
binghammer
7/30/14 10:24pm
True, but you do take issue with all criticism because to you none is legit
byutx
7/31/14 7:45am
I do take issue with most criticism because 90% of it is garbage
binghammer
7/31/14 10:41am
So why do you defend all criticism?
byutx
8/1/14 9:14am
link?
binghammer
8/10/14 7:45pm
Another 1-2 start will be tough to swallow...
argus
7/30/14 6:53pm
Lots of teams lose fan interest when they lose games.
sportsgeek82
7/30/14 7:01pm
exactly, not sure Walter thinks most of his posts through
coug10278
7/30/14 7:05pm
I would contend every team loses some fan interest unless an undefeated season
coug10278
7/30/14 7:12pm
Most teams would gain fan interest back if they were to win 4 in a row
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 7:09pm
so?
crazY
7/30/14 7:45pm
I guess that depends on who you ask.
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 7:51pm
What is your point, then?
crazY
7/30/14 7:55pm
Link:
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 7:57pm
fair enough
crazY
7/30/14 8:01pm
I agree 100%
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 8:05pm
That's true
crazY
7/30/14 8:23pm
Everyone, except player parents, is a fair-weather fan to some degree.
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 8:27pm
I'm not sure that I would...
crazY
7/30/14 8:33pm
I was right there with you.
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 8:41pm
I see where you're coming from
crazY
7/30/14 10:01pm
How would that be different if we were in the MWC?
zerome4sooners
7/30/14 7:28pm
I don't think it would.
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 7:30pm
P5 or bust.
Archaea
7/30/14 7:33pm
Not this FAN. Luv the COUGARS. Independance = ESPN & BYUtv = ROCK LES
COUGAR_Blue_Avenger
7/30/14 7:32pm
Don't you want BYU to be part of the national discussion?
Archaea
7/30/14 7:35pm
What?? Lest I lol, surely you jest.
COUGAR_Blue_Avenger
7/30/14 7:42pm
What does being on tv have to do with being part of the national discussion?
Archaea
7/30/14 7:45pm
The more viewers the more you are part of the discussion locally, regionally
COUGAR_Blue_Avenger
7/30/14 9:13pm
BYU is a regional brand with potential for becoming quasi-national
Archaea
7/31/14 8:54am
Negatory. Opinion is not fact . . .
COUGAR_Blue_Avenger
8/12/14 7:25pm
RE: BYU is a regional brand with potential for becoming quasi-national
COUGAR_Blue_Avenger
8/12/14 8:31pm
either way it doesn't affect my fandom
charles
7/30/14 7:49pm
why is this captain obvious post generating so much chatter?
coug10278
7/30/14 7:52pm
because it is just so pathetically whiny
charles
7/30/14 7:55pm
ding, ding, ding
coug10278
7/30/14 8:24pm
Not a "captain obvious" post. We can fill LES w/ cheaper tix. AAC? Not until '19
Don't Muff It
7/30/14 8:00pm
fans lose interest after losing = MIND BLOWN!!
coug10278
7/30/14 8:21pm
I hate to admit it but I won't be buying my ROC pass until after the Texas game.
danegg7
7/30/14 9:01pm
Sure thing. Yeah, let's go do something really stupid and backwards like
AntiSNOT
7/30/14 9:27pm
MWC is crap.
Walter Bellhaven
7/30/14 9:39pm
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . . . .
lightmann
7/30/14 10:24pm
BYU has been losing fan interest for years. It has been all down hill since 2009
The Lone Wolf
7/30/14 10:58pm
<< Deleted >>
Abe Froman
7/30/14 11:59pm
Doubt it. Lots of fans will be upset about the losses and some will pretend the
Real Men Wear Blue
7/31/14 8:14am
I like football. I'm a BYU fan.
Eddie
7/31/14 9:25am
However, imagine two scenarios
Archaea
7/31/14 9:32am
In your scenario, I'm going to watch both games.
Eddie
7/31/14 9:42am
12 and 9?
crazY
7/31/14 1:12pm
So stupid... How is Indy not better then the Mountain West?
PoopTown LLC
7/31/14 9:35am
Is Walter arguing in favor of MWC? I don't read it that way.
Archaea
7/31/14 9:36am
We were in the MWC and now Indy because no P5 wants us... so
PoopTown LLC
7/31/14 9:47am
Indy > MWC
Walter Bellhaven
7/31/14 9:50am
?
PoopTown LLC
7/31/14 9:56am
Where does the AAC fit in this diagram? Indy>AAC>MWC?
Eddie
7/31/14 9:57am
AAC>Indy>MWC
Walter Bellhaven
7/31/14 10:02am
"I don't understand your logic" (Said with a Chris Farley accent)
PoopTown LLC
7/31/14 10:18am
The loss has already begun. I think I tuned in to 3 games last year, and I have
OhYePoorFools
7/31/14 11:32am
So...watching the conference race would've kept you interested?
Eddie
7/31/14 3:56pm
what race?
crazY
7/31/14 6:54pm
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