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Jul 30, 2014
7:24:20pm

Walter Bellhaven

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Walter Bellhaven

Previous username: The Dan Man
Bio page: Walter Bellhaven
Joined: Sep 10, 2009
Last login: Jul 6, 2017
Total posts: 43,168 (716 FO)

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Time

BYU will start losing fan interest this year.

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 6:18pm

Good to know. Keep us updated.

Runs With Scissors

7/30/14 6:19pm

Chicken Little and UoU fans predicted this when UoU got the PAC 10.2 invite

Coogar2

7/31/14 11:53am

I would like to lose 10% of our fan base.

charles

7/30/14 6:21pm

That is a ton of cash but I'm afraid you're going to get your wish.

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 6:22pm

sooner the better

charles

7/30/14 6:24pm

For BYU, TV is a higher priority than $, so BYU is OK w/ discounting to fill LES

Don't Muff It

7/30/14 7:11pm

As long as I can choose the 10%, Id be ok with it, too

SuperTank

7/30/14 6:54pm

And then they could install movie theatre seats! Can't wait.

Malathion

7/30/14 7:49pm

Hopefully we can ditch independence, yes, but not for a lame conference.

LiveCoug

7/30/14 6:23pm

LOL We're not joining any G5 league until 2019--unless we can keep our ESPN deal

Don't Muff It

7/30/14 6:26pm

And if we join a lame league in 2019, that is a very very bad sign.

LiveCoug

7/30/14 6:30pm

Only join a P5 or equivalent conference. No MWC please!

Archaea

7/30/14 6:40pm

Independence got me to my first game in person in years

gustav88

7/30/14 6:33pm

the valid part of this argument is the lack of fun

Archaea

7/30/14 6:39pm

Which is no different than if we were in the Big12.

PolarisPrime

7/30/14 7:40pm

Not in the SEC.

Archaea

7/30/14 7:42pm

In most years even a team from the SEC would need to be undefeated.

PolarisPrime

7/30/14 7:54pm

$50 says any one loss SEC champion is in the playoff 10 out of 10 years.

unctoothman

7/30/14 8:44pm

That is probably true

PolarisPrime

7/31/14 12:31am

I disagree

ManicBlue

7/31/14 2:16am

As long as we remain a cheap first date, we will always get good attendance.

Josef K

7/30/14 6:36pm

And keep everyone singing "Sweet Caroline"

LV Mike

7/30/14 6:37pm

Maybe we should have Super Diamond come out and lead us.

Josef K

7/30/14 6:40pm

It will lose the well of excitement, to be certain.

Archaea

7/30/14 6:36pm

your shtick is old

binghammer

7/30/14 6:48pm

Ignore me.

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 6:49pm

more fun to laugh at you

binghammer

7/30/14 6:56pm

Well is it getting old or is it funny?

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 6:59pm

the fact that you are such a broken record definitely makes for some amusement

binghammer

7/30/14 7:02pm

So it's not getting old then?

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 7:04pm

It's definitely old, I never said otherwise

binghammer

7/30/14 7:09pm

So it's an English duel huh?

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 7:10pm

Whatever takes the spotlight off you after you say something ignorant

binghammer

7/30/14 7:12pm

Well at least you're optimistic about your 2nd grade education.

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 7:14pm

You corrected it and are now passing with a 75%

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 7:12pm

and your original post is still just as ignorant as it was originally

binghammer

7/30/14 7:14pm

I guess we'll see.

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 7:16pm

Let me know when you change it

binghammer

7/30/14 7:19pm

If we lose the Texas game, come back at the end of the season with attendance #s

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 7:21pm

RE: If we lose the Texas game, come back at the end of the season with

Archaea

7/30/14 7:23pm

No matter how bad my English may be, it will never match your ignorance

binghammer

7/30/14 7:25pm

Again:

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 7:26pm

We've been listening to your rants for 5 years now, I think your body

binghammer

7/30/14 7:30pm

You showed him with your overwhelming onslaught of analysis and wit.

Archaea

7/30/14 7:33pm

Doesn't take much with him, or you actually

binghammer

7/30/14 7:33pm

You might disagree with him, but

Archaea

7/30/14 7:37pm

I've attempted to debate it out with facts

binghammer

7/30/14 7:41pm

Here are the conclusions, as supported by past years.

Archaea

7/30/14 7:44pm

He said "lose interest"

binghammer

7/30/14 7:49pm

Fans will lose interest.

Archaea

7/30/14 7:50pm

sure, him and 4 others with his same problem will throw themselves

binghammer

7/30/14 7:55pm

I know grammar and synatax don't matter to you, but they

Archaea

7/30/14 8:01pm

Ironic that you start in on me about attacking him

binghammer

7/30/14 8:09pm

Pointing out poor writing is NOT an ad hominem attack.

Archaea

7/31/14 8:51am

say what you want

binghammer

7/31/14 10:39am

"weak minds" is an insult by the way. Are you capable of engaging without

Archaea

7/31/14 3:04pm

Just playing on your level bud

binghammer

7/31/14 3:24pm

You haven't identified a single insult by me. You must be confusing my posts

Archaea

7/31/14 4:15pm

It's cool, I'm not mad at you

binghammer

7/31/14 4:37pm

Any examples where I have been proven wrong?

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 7:42pm

You need to wake up, son. BYU football is in a mangled spot. The future is not

OhYePoorFools

8/6/14 3:08pm

I say, I say...

Eddie

8/7/14 1:25pm

hold on while I grab you a box of tissues

binghammer

8/10/14 7:46pm

Holy crap. Your vs. You're. Is it really that difficult?

Hotty-Toddy-Reb

7/30/14 7:02pm

No, he's right, I am shtick is getting a bit old.

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 7:05pm

Can we stop pretending like differentiating you're versus your is a miracle?

QuinneyCoug

7/30/14 7:26pm

You're correct, but it is irritating to see so much bad syntax

Archaea

7/30/14 7:32pm

Did they teach you reading comprehension back when you were in school?

Hotty-Toddy-Reb

7/30/14 7:45pm

This is another example of the sort of annoying behavior we see on the internet.

QuinneyCoug

7/30/14 7:49pm

Hey, I happen to believe that the ability to interpret meaning from a passage...

Hotty-Toddy-Reb

7/30/14 8:15pm

You win. I assemble furniture at IKEA.

QuinneyCoug

7/30/14 8:20pm

You are just as civil mocking him

crazY

7/30/14 8:20pm

I don't even know where to begin with this...

Hotty-Toddy-Reb

7/30/14 8:24pm

Not as much as a bad argument does though

binghammer

7/30/14 7:59pm

at least you're not disagreeing with me...

Hotty-Toddy-Reb

7/30/14 8:19pm

I know the value of a good editor

binghammer

7/30/14 8:30pm

Good job!!! 100% LOL!!!

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 7:24pm

Coming from you this makes ME laugh. Between you and TexasCoug, I'm sure you're

byutx

7/30/14 10:10pm

I dont take issue with legitimate complaints and concerns, of which

binghammer

7/30/14 10:24pm

True, but you do take issue with all criticism because to you none is legit

byutx

7/31/14 7:45am

I do take issue with most criticism because 90% of it is garbage

binghammer

7/31/14 10:41am

So why do you defend all criticism?

byutx

8/1/14 9:14am

link?

binghammer

8/10/14 7:45pm

Another 1-2 start will be tough to swallow...

argus

7/30/14 6:53pm

Lots of teams lose fan interest when they lose games.

sportsgeek82

7/30/14 7:01pm

exactly, not sure Walter thinks most of his posts through

coug10278

7/30/14 7:05pm

I would contend every team loses some fan interest unless an undefeated season

coug10278

7/30/14 7:12pm

Most teams would gain fan interest back if they were to win 4 in a row

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 7:09pm

so?

crazY

7/30/14 7:45pm

I guess that depends on who you ask.

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 7:51pm

What is your point, then?

crazY

7/30/14 7:55pm

Link:

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 7:57pm

fair enough

crazY

7/30/14 8:01pm

I agree 100%

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 8:05pm

That's true

crazY

7/30/14 8:23pm

Everyone, except player parents, is a fair-weather fan to some degree.

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 8:27pm

I'm not sure that I would...

crazY

7/30/14 8:33pm

I was right there with you.

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 8:41pm

I see where you're coming from

crazY

7/30/14 10:01pm

How would that be different if we were in the MWC?

zerome4sooners

7/30/14 7:28pm

I don't think it would.

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 7:30pm

P5 or bust.

Archaea

7/30/14 7:33pm

Not this FAN. Luv the COUGARS. Independance = ESPN & BYUtv = ROCK LES

COUGAR_Blue_Avenger

7/30/14 7:32pm

Don't you want BYU to be part of the national discussion?

Archaea

7/30/14 7:35pm

What?? Lest I lol, surely you jest.

COUGAR_Blue_Avenger

7/30/14 7:42pm

What does being on tv have to do with being part of the national discussion?

Archaea

7/30/14 7:45pm

The more viewers the more you are part of the discussion locally, regionally

COUGAR_Blue_Avenger

7/30/14 9:13pm

BYU is a regional brand with potential for becoming quasi-national

Archaea

7/31/14 8:54am

Negatory. Opinion is not fact . . .

COUGAR_Blue_Avenger

8/12/14 7:25pm

RE: BYU is a regional brand with potential for becoming quasi-national

COUGAR_Blue_Avenger

8/12/14 8:31pm

either way it doesn't affect my fandom

charles

7/30/14 7:49pm

why is this captain obvious post generating so much chatter?

coug10278

7/30/14 7:52pm

because it is just so pathetically whiny

charles

7/30/14 7:55pm

ding, ding, ding

coug10278

7/30/14 8:24pm

Not a "captain obvious" post. We can fill LES w/ cheaper tix. AAC? Not until '19

Don't Muff It

7/30/14 8:00pm

fans lose interest after losing = MIND BLOWN!!

coug10278

7/30/14 8:21pm

I hate to admit it but I won't be buying my ROC pass until after the Texas game.

danegg7

7/30/14 9:01pm

Sure thing. Yeah, let's go do something really stupid and backwards like

AntiSNOT

7/30/14 9:27pm

MWC is crap.

Walter Bellhaven

7/30/14 9:39pm

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . . . .

lightmann

7/30/14 10:24pm

BYU has been losing fan interest for years. It has been all down hill since 2009

The Lone Wolf

7/30/14 10:58pm

<< Deleted >>

Abe Froman

7/30/14 11:59pm

Doubt it. Lots of fans will be upset about the losses and some will pretend the

Real Men Wear Blue

7/31/14 8:14am

I like football. I'm a BYU fan.

Eddie

7/31/14 9:25am

However, imagine two scenarios

Archaea

7/31/14 9:32am

In your scenario, I'm going to watch both games.

Eddie

7/31/14 9:42am

12 and 9?

crazY

7/31/14 1:12pm

So stupid... How is Indy not better then the Mountain West?

PoopTown LLC

7/31/14 9:35am

Is Walter arguing in favor of MWC? I don't read it that way.

Archaea

7/31/14 9:36am

We were in the MWC and now Indy because no P5 wants us... so

PoopTown LLC

7/31/14 9:47am

Indy > MWC

Walter Bellhaven

7/31/14 9:50am

PoopTown LLC

7/31/14 9:56am

Where does the AAC fit in this diagram? Indy>AAC>MWC?

Eddie

7/31/14 9:57am

AAC>Indy>MWC

Walter Bellhaven

7/31/14 10:02am

"I don't understand your logic" (Said with a Chris Farley accent)

PoopTown LLC

7/31/14 10:18am

The loss has already begun. I think I tuned in to 3 games last year, and I have

OhYePoorFools

7/31/14 11:32am

So...watching the conference race would've kept you interested?

Eddie

7/31/14 3:56pm

what race?

crazY

7/31/14 6:54pm

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