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Oct 5, 2017
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blackshirts
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Oh, fans have already disengaged.
10 years ago you'd see kids in Draper with BYU gear on all the time. Now it's about 1 in 20.
The stadium has a lot more empty seats.
CB numbers, I'm seeing at least a 50% drop of fans online.
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Argue this all you want, but I believe going back to the MWC is better for BYU.
BlueForLife
10/5/17 12:48am
RE: Argue this all you want, but I believe going back to the MWC is better for
Cougarfan777
10/5/17 12:53am
Texas football is drowning. Being in a conference isn't fixing it for them.
Y2k
10/5/17 1:05am
Losing is a problem whether Indy, P5 or MWC. I do think bringing back regional
BlueForLife
10/5/17 1:48am
You can't argue with these INDY lovers. They think INDY is equal to P5. If
blackshirts
10/5/17 7:08am
I don't think the word "argue" means what you appear to think it means....
Fido
10/5/17 7:35am
No, we merely think it is better than G5.
Freddie Cougar
10/5/17 10:43am
Regional rivals such as Utah, Utah State, and Boise St?
HawkeyeCoug
10/5/17 9:16am
USU and Boise are not rivals, we just play them...BYU only has one rival
Nat Gas Man
10/5/17 10:48am
So tell me why they aren't independent? Someone tell me
SaintGeorgeYFan
10/5/17 3:10am
Because it works SO well!
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 7:34am
This is the key question that indy lovers can’t face
Run-DMT
10/5/17 8:08am
Because all other teams with it size budget, facilities, fan base are P5.
Cougarpolis
10/5/17 8:17am
How many G5 teams have a 60K stadium, and are top 20 in basketball attendance?
HawkeyeCoug
10/5/17 9:18am
Their problem is coaching, boosters and fans with unreal expectations. Familiar?
Turd Furguson
10/5/17 6:50am
This makes no sense at all.
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 7:34am
Drowning in money, I guess. Their profit in 2015 was $91M
OPINIONS
10/5/17 7:40am
Being in the MWC - drowning even more
HawkeyeCoug
10/5/17 9:14am
I only get 12-14 BYU football games a year. I’ll watch and await all 12-14...
billyrust
10/5/17 12:58am
I’ll watch them too, because they are on networks that are easily accessible.
Lolo
10/5/17 1:05am
I get that. I believe we could probably still have an in with ESPN if we went
BlueForLife
10/5/17 1:34am
Uh, wasn't MWC inflexibility with rights the main problem last time?
panguitch
10/5/17 4:45am
The ESPN $$$ would still be there. ESPN needs teams to fill Thursday/Friday
blackshirts
10/5/17 6:36am
What about the TV history with the MWC
Fido
10/5/17 7:41am
Thompson is still the MWC commish and he told BYU to pound sand on TV rights
valcorger
10/5/17 11:54am
Of course he did!
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 12:54pm
The heck with the football program, at least I can still see a game. SMH
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 7:36am
It won't happen....MWC is now a glorified WAC and BYU would drop sports first
Nat Gas Man
10/5/17 1:02am
Would we? We are in the WCC for basketball and just built a huge new practice
BlueForLife
10/5/17 1:25am
Because of football...
Cougarpolis
10/5/17 7:13am
I'm not even sure the MWC is a "glorified" WAC
fattycoug
10/5/17 8:05am
byu's recruiting class was #62 the year they went independent SDSU and Boise
franklyvulgar
10/5/17 1:08am
Truth be told...
Cougarfan777
10/5/17 1:16am
Exactly.
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 7:39am
Yes, and playing in the WAC/MWC plus about 2-3 P5 teams is about the right
Run-DMT
10/5/17 8:11am
One more argument. Look at how many MWC teams we are playing this year. Six on
BlueForLife
10/5/17 1:21am
Going back to the MWC is like having your son play tackle football. After
BlueForLife
10/5/17 2:00am
And the problem with this is...
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 7:40am
I'm with you on that.
BlueForLife
10/5/17 8:02am
I was the best player on my HS volleyball B team
Dissenter
10/5/17 12:42pm
Here's a couple good points to the contrary.
Y2k
10/5/17 2:02am
I think we have bargaining chips in our favor. We wouldn't go back
BlueForLife
10/5/17 2:10am
And it's not like anyone in the MWC is any more likely to want to help
panguitch
10/5/17 4:39am
This really isn't any different than before. We were just as arrogant in the MWC
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 7:42am
Hair would change his mind when he sees the actual $$$ figures we are bringing
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 7:41am
Going back to the MWC is like having a job with a good company that pays less.
BlueForLife
10/5/17 2:03am
RE: Going back to the MWC is like having a job with a good company that pays
Y2k
10/5/17 2:51am
until you realize your old job was head septic cleaner.
Cougarpolis
10/5/17 7:16am
The MWC was bad company that hated us
HawkeyeCoug
10/5/17 9:28am
You are 100% correct and I fear that the program will continue to decline before
mm73
10/5/17 2:55am
Becoming, we have years of evidence to prove this is who we are.
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 7:43am
You are making suggestions without enough data. You need to go talk with large donors and see if they are willing to
HarlemCoug
10/5/17 4:11am
Apparently you donated when we were in the MWC, why then and not now?
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 7:50am
I agree we need to be in a conference but the AAC is a better fit.
Cabadapeste
10/5/17 4:41am
ad nauseum
panguitch
10/5/17 5:06am
What has that money and exposure done for us? Our on-the-field product is no
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 7:52am
So you propose giving up $20Mil for a product that is the same or maybe slightly
ByuMba90
10/5/17 7:57am
If you think we would be giving all that money up IF we were to join a G5
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 8:18am
So we give up $20 mil/yr for a chance at a trophy we already have dozens of?
panguitch
10/5/17 8:03am
First I don't think we give up $20M.
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 8:23am
Here's where I got the $20m number I used in my response:
panguitch
10/5/17 10:07am
I'm not questioning your $20m number.
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 1:00pm
Barney style?
panguitch
10/5/17 2:00pm
I'm Vancouvercougar and I approve this message
vancouvercougar
10/5/17 1:35pm
You’re absolutely right!
gwalker
10/5/17 6:19am
Definitely not a Ute and will never be. I would cheer for UVUs football team
BlueForLife
10/5/17 8:04am
Winning the MWC is a meaningless accomplishment.
Freddie Cougar
10/5/17 6:22am
Winning the LV bowl is meaningless! Being ranked 90+ is meaningless!
blackshirts
10/5/17 6:39am
And the New Mexico Bowl is meaningful? Heck we might not even get there this
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 7:53am
Better than a 9-4 independence year. We are already playing 6 MWC teams now. Our
BlueForLife
10/5/17 8:05am
I hear all your points but they don't address the biggest factor
Crowd Factor
10/5/17 6:56am
Sustainability? We already have been there before. It's nothing new, we are
BlueForLife
10/5/17 8:09am
Rip Van Winkle: Wake up, it is not 1984
HawkeyeCoug
10/5/17 9:53am
Nobody is arguing that this model will get us to a NC.
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 10:03am
You want to see fans disengage and not show up to games?
VegasCoug83
10/5/17 6:57am
Kind of like they are doing right now?
Turd Furguson
10/5/17 7:03am
PS, we don't have P5 status with the B12. By all rights, we are a G5 team and
Turd Furguson
10/5/17 7:05am
Oh, fans have already disengaged.
blackshirts
10/5/17 7:29am
Haha, you must not have seen the Wisconsin game.
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 7:54am
We will still schedule the big guys. Our schedule will look very similar but
BlueForLife
10/5/17 8:14am
RE: Argue this all you want, but I believe going back to the MWC is better for
Abe Froman
10/5/17 7:04am
Glad someone said it.
KeithSweat
10/5/17 7:24am
Not MWC, think about AAC with BYU, BSU, SDSU and Air Force.
Oatmeal
10/5/17 7:53am
AAC would be better but I don't k own if the cost in travel would justify us
BlueForLife
10/5/17 8:10am
Look at our 2019 and 2020 schedules. You're telling me you'd rather play
Dangerous
10/5/17 8:07am
I would love to play the 19 and 20 schedules. The problem is that after we lose
BlueForLife
10/5/17 8:13am
You get you'd be playing for a MWC trophy, right?
Cougarpolis
10/5/17 8:21am
Yes. What are we playing for now?
BlueForLife
10/5/17 8:37am
RE: Yes. What are we playing for now?
Cougarpolis
10/5/17 8:38am
With a loss to Utah St., we wouldn't be playing for a MWC title
HawkeyeCoug
10/5/17 8:59am
Watching my team get obliterated with a significant portion of the stadium empty
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 8:25am
BYU charged significantly more for Wisconsin than Portland State
HawkeyeCoug
10/5/17 9:57am
So same logic applies "Watching my team get obliterated with a significant
TheLoneCougar
10/5/17 10:08am
dude, if we're going back to a conf. it's not likely going to be the MWC
Avery
10/5/17 8:08am
I'm sorry I just can't help but laugh at your recent posts. I get it the MWC
Polecat
10/5/17 8:27am
you've put words in my mouth. I don't claim the MWC is sitting around lamenting
Avery
10/5/17 8:46am
You're just making things up though. Where are you getting that:
Polecat
10/5/17 3:16pm
BYU to MWC: “You’re conf sucks, we’d never join you losers again. But will you”
Run-DMT
10/5/17 8:18am
and they do. I wonder why....
Cougarpolis
10/5/17 8:21am
It wasn't the conference opponents that sucked (even if they actually did)....
ByuMba90
10/5/17 8:32am
Sunbelt, CUSA, AAC all would play us
HawkeyeCoug
10/5/17 9:59am
If you really want to be in a P6 bowl, start a lawsuit
HawkeyeCoug
10/5/17 8:53am
Did you just say Liberty U would be a good Nov rival? Wow.
Run-DMT
10/5/17 10:03am
Liberty is a rising team with good support, financing, and a national base
HawkeyeCoug
10/5/17 12:03pm
Good for you. Going back is short-sighted and an admission BYU doesn’t belong
StalwartBraveTrue
10/5/17 10:01am
Can you recategorize this?
TailgateU
10/5/17 10:04am
I'd like a "You're Wrong" category that I can just ignore
Styro
10/5/17 11:37am
We're too Big to eat at the Kids Table.
BigHouse Coug
10/5/17 4:15pm
They're pretty much playing a MW schedule already.
KeithSweat
10/6/17 12:46am
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