both out recruited us among other lowly G5's, I think Holmoe was hoping for some sort of excitement especially that first year/improvement ala Utah going to the P12 that first year should have been a red flag that Independence wasn't going to be that attractive to recruits but at the same time we're trying to schedule like we're alabama for our September. Our unbalanced schedule gets our guys injured,then we really see our recruiting woes as our depth becomes an issue.