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CDV
normally I would agree with you, but you are illustrating otherwise with your
analysis of the aiding and abetting requirement.
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a question for lawyers...
thebruce
7/7/15 10:43am
You should still pay him.
supertux
7/7/15 10:44am
So wait, you hired an illegal immigrant to do some work for you. You were only
Y2k
7/7/15 12:15pm
You have a legal obligation to turn him over to ICE.
db59840
7/7/15 10:45am
You should also do this.
supertux
7/7/15 10:46am
a legal obligation? based on?
CDV
7/7/15 10:47am
Aiding and abetting a crime?
db59840
7/7/15 10:57am
Another fine JD graduate from L&O University
bluebloodedcoug
7/7/15 11:05am
No
CDV
7/7/15 11:09am
How is hiring an illegal immigrant not aiding a crime? In fact, it is itself a
db59840
7/7/15 11:11am
it might be a crime in and of itself, but it is not aiding and abetting.
CDV
7/7/15 11:15am
Crime: seeking employment illegally. Aiding: helping criminal seek employment.
db59840
7/7/15 11:19am
normally I would agree with you, but you are illustrating otherwise with your
CDV
7/7/15 11:26am
Enlighten me then. How is hiring an illegal immigrant NOT aiding him in
db59840
7/7/15 11:27am
Because being an undocumented resident is not, itself, criminal?
ebv
7/7/15 11:30am
What?
db59840
7/7/15 11:33am
Correct. Being in the country unlawfully is not a crime.
ebv
7/7/15 5:12pm
Not a lawyer, but with his criminal history, I'd be afraid of retaliation if I
Flippy
7/7/15 10:45am
Question for humans:
CDV
7/7/15 10:47am
it is more than that.
thebruce
7/7/15 10:49am
IOW I had to pay someone to fix everything he did
thebruce
7/7/15 10:49am
So....was that because he did a really poor job? Had poor direction? Was not
RalphWiggam
7/7/15 10:57am
he was qualified..because I had paid him for previous work
thebruce
7/7/15 11:00am
Then why not simply say...
RalphWiggam
7/7/15 11:12am
both scenarios I wanted legal advice on.
thebruce
7/7/15 11:22am
So you didn't know he was illegal when you hired him?
RalphWiggam
7/7/15 11:38am
this wasn't the first job I used him for.
thebruce
7/7/15 11:44am
You should have been watching him and sent him off the job as soon as you saw
NorthBayCoug
7/7/15 10:57am
You chose him to do the work.
Triggerhappybunny
7/7/15 11:08am
You pay him when he provides his Tax Id number.
Mister P
7/7/15 10:47am
Oh please
NorthBayCoug
7/7/15 10:53am
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supertux
7/7/15 10:53am
You are not required to file if the value of the work is less than $600
donnerstag
7/7/15 10:58am
Pay him what he's owed
NorthBayCoug
7/7/15 10:51am
Yep. As far as life lessons go, that one is not too expensive. Here's a free one
Hoosier Cougar
7/7/15 10:56am
His criminal history has nothing to do with if you should pay him.
mudpupper
7/7/15 10:53am
You had an agreement with him. You need to keep your word.
annapcoug
7/7/15 10:55am
If he did a shoddy job, then make him do it right before paying him
donnerstag
7/7/15 10:55am
Is everyone that posted in this section a Lawyer?
thebruce
7/7/15 10:59am
No, but I've had illegals sue me before
NorthBayCoug
7/7/15 11:01am
right, just asking for a lawyers advice.
thebruce
7/7/15 11:04am
I am not a lawyer, but hey, at least I qualified that in my post.
Flippy
7/7/15 11:03am
I'm a lawyer, but I'm going to refrain from giving you advice. You seem like the
Non-donor troll
7/7/15 11:05am
good call
thebruce
7/7/15 11:05am
Either pay him or be ready to back up your claim that his work was not worth
ebv
7/7/15 11:06am
Did you know he was illegal when you hired him? Seems like he could get you
ol' Blue Eyes
7/7/15 11:10am
Yes, because illegal immigrants are always filing actions against people for
erodcoug
7/7/15 11:13am
What state do you live in?
NorthBayCoug
7/7/15 11:18am
I am Mexican-American from California Essay. I have worked with the Latino
erodcoug
7/7/15 2:59pm
you're a Mexican-American who can't spell 'ese?'
BYUCoug11
7/7/15 3:05pm
We spell it different in my barrio, we conform to the Oxford Spanglish
erodcoug
7/7/15 3:21pm
Doubling down!
ol' Blue Eyes
7/7/15 3:24pm
Yes "Essay"...don't be splainin in a long post on CB!
ol' Blue Eyes
7/7/15 3:11pm
If that's a long post, your ADHD is definitely more severe than mine.
erodcoug
7/7/15 3:22pm
haha...sorry...I just crack myself up sometimes!
ol' Blue Eyes
7/7/15 3:25pm
You're right
NorthBayCoug
7/7/15 6:17pm
Man, it's funny to me how generous all of these guys are with your money to
erodcoug
7/7/15 11:10am
Such advice assumes one thing
Hoosier Cougar
7/7/15 11:21am
Good point. The amount is too small to litigate
donnerstag
7/7/15 11:35am
update: I just worked out a settlement with him.
thebruce
7/7/15 11:39am
Great, that's the right thing to do and that is what I was trying to get at.
erodcoug
7/7/15 11:50am
Good job
Y2k
7/7/15 3:59pm
His status as an illegal immigrant is irrelevant
spinner
7/7/15 11:24am
Is he married to a man? That would effect how much I would pay him.
ClackamasCoug
7/7/15 12:09pm
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