Why participate at the top level with no chance of excelling?

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Dec 6, 2017
7:01:33pm

Archaea All-American

Isn't it a cultural doctrine that we should excel in all our endeavors?

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Archaea

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The problem with BYU athletics starts at the top.

slowhiteguy

12/6/17 11:37am

It's just the reality that they are people faced with serious world problems

Triggerhappybunny

12/6/17 11:39am

Really? Yet amid such serious world problems...

cougar247

12/6/17 11:50am

Agreed. But, it boils down to one question: Does the BOT really want the FB

TrueBlue67

12/6/17 1:10pm

Tiny portion of Church's overall spending goes to welfare/ humanitarian aid

Cougs'16

12/6/17 2:18pm

Or talking about building a $3 billion mall...

Paul Hewson

12/6/17 6:36pm

The BOT is never going to engage in BYU football like a P5 college.

displacedute

12/6/17 11:51am

If this is true join a G5 right now.

CougarinOZ

12/6/17 12:15pm

This is true.

displacedute

12/6/17 12:16pm

So you as a Mormon yewt see byu is in a no-win situation

Carlos E. Queso

12/6/17 12:44pm

I don't think you're in a no-win situation.

displacedute

12/6/17 1:05pm

Also, BYU is a competitor and your failures benefit Utah.

displacedute

12/6/17 3:01pm

You have no idea what you are talking about

cougarbob137

12/6/17 11:52am

Thanks for your input.

slowhiteguy

12/6/17 2:38pm

If you are going respond in such harsh tones, then provide some information/insight

Adrielle

12/6/17 2:46pm

The fact is one season doesn't mean the sky if falling

Dissenter

12/6/17 3:28pm

I didn't mean it to be harsh, but I doubt anyone on CB has enough understanding

cougarbob137

12/6/17 4:13pm

I think most on here would agree that it's not 1984 (or even 2007) anymore.

TrueBlue67

12/6/17 4:27pm

I've never heard a member of the BOT talk about running a P5 program.

displacedute

12/6/17 4:30pm

Here's the problem...If TH (and BM before he left and KS now) say that they want

TrueBlue67

12/6/17 4:40pm

You just barely had the former athletic director

foosman

12/6/17 7:25pm

Or just allow Athletics to fundraise without a bunch of unnecessary restrictions

SCcoug

12/6/17 11:52am

That's my solution.

mudpupper

12/6/17 12:01pm

(Plus concessions go to football...)

teancum

12/6/17 2:31pm

I couldn't disagree more

StantonMac

12/6/17 12:18pm

He specifically said no sacred funds should apply

Carlos E. Queso

12/6/17 12:47pm

The BOT don't want to sign off on deals that ARE willingly funded by boosters.

mantis mutu

12/6/17 1:56pm

This bugs...I don't understand this mentality

BYUSwoop

12/7/17 10:49pm

I really believe the "missionary tool" angle is overblown...

Bonoman

12/6/17 12:48pm

RE: I really believe the "missionary tool" angle is overblown...

holyyewtbatman

12/6/17 1:05pm

I agree it's viewed less tht ways these days. As it should be. The Church is NOT

mantis mutu

12/6/17 2:01pm

From my own personal little world, BYU is a huge missionary tool. I've had

jaredm

12/6/17 3:36pm

Disagree. There many whose first interest in the church came from football. Many

Real Men Wear Blue

12/6/17 4:50pm

So its INDIRECT influence in bringing the restored Gospel to people -- does it

mantis mutu

12/6/17 4:56pm

Direct or indirect, they would likely never have joined but for that experience.

Real Men Wear Blue

12/6/17 4:58pm

Don't doubt that. Every convert has his/her own experience.

mantis mutu

12/6/17 5:00pm

I have had many conversations started about the church because of byu football

thaskoozcoug

12/6/17 6:05pm

Living in the south, the byu football team is often the #1thing that

Pretorian

12/6/17 8:55pm

Bingo...it was the only way I could connect with people coming out of college

BYUSwoop

12/7/17 10:51pm

How about just allow the athletic program to keep all of its sources of revenue

Bostonblue

12/6/17 2:41pm

Zero/sum decision here?

TheLoneCougar

12/6/17 2:52pm

RE: Zero/sum decision here?

holyyewtbatman

12/6/17 3:53pm

Why participate at the top level with no chance of excelling?

Archaea

12/6/17 7:01pm

Clearly and I agree with you. All I'm saying is the OP makes it sound like

TheLoneCougar

12/7/17 7:09am

the BoT was spoiled by LaVell and hasn't updated its thinking.

Archaea

12/7/17 10:06pm

While that may have been true 15 years ago I have a hard time believing that now

TheLoneCougar

12/8/17 7:09am

The problem with BYU Sports starts with your name. 😉

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