no, but since your fail fail fail fail comments you sure sound like someone

Aug 20, 2014
8:38:35pm

franklyvulgar

with authority to critique Tom's job, you really should apply I take it you have the qualifications. I don't want you to change your ways at all, I want you to help poor Tom out and either give him some advice or replace him.. TIA

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TH in KSL interview: "We are not going to keep up with the Joneses

Samurai Jack

8/20/14 8:05pm

TH: "we are the joneses"

JackStack

8/20/14 8:08pm

No, he said "We are BYU" and we are going to do what has made us

Samurai Jack

8/20/14 8:15pm

what we do best is not play in a major conference

run26

8/20/14 8:24pm

Why marinate in that negativity? We can control only so much.

BlueNtheFace

8/20/14 8:38pm

because it is THE major issue facing byu football

run26

8/20/14 8:41pm

sometimes it seems that the major issue facing BYU football is the fans

crazY

8/20/14 8:52pm

please. don't blame the victim. byu should be glad that we demand excellence

run26

8/20/14 9:05pm

frankly, I'm not sure BYU cares a whole lot when they have fans that whine

crazY

8/20/14 9:55pm

That will be an issue if we don't eventually get into a P5 conf.

Walter Bellhaven

8/20/14 11:40pm

this has been an issue since independence has been brought up

crazY

8/20/14 11:50pm

Fans caring is a GOOD thing.

Walter Bellhaven

8/21/14 11:04am

I disagree, fans will just become disinterested and move on.

Ruby Soho

8/21/14 9:42am

Sounds like an issue to me. Right?

Walter Bellhaven

8/21/14 11:03am

Without the relevancy of winning most of our bigger games, we don't have the

BlueNtheFace

8/20/14 9:01pm

If Holmoe is not going to do everything necessary to make the changes needed,

CougDogg-e-Dogg

8/20/14 8:08pm

TH takes his marching orders from high up

I'mBatman

8/20/14 8:12pm

I'd like to know what kind of a role church leadership is taking with BYU sports

CougDogg-e-Dogg

8/20/14 8:17pm

They just gave TH permission to begin fundraising for a new BB facility. That

Rocketman

8/20/14 8:57pm

You mean the BOT gave him permission to do fundraising in silent. Meanwhile,

CougDogg-e-Dogg

8/20/14 9:20pm

What are you talking about.

PolarisPrime

8/20/14 9:47pm

This was tweeted by Jarom Jordan earlier today. Try keeping up.

CougDogg-e-Dogg

8/20/14 9:58pm

I wasn't talking about the basketball facility.

PolarisPrime

8/20/14 11:38pm

"then I think it is Tom Holmoe's time to go." or a few of our fans

charles

8/20/14 8:32pm

Like the one's that think Manti Te'o received an ND offer last minute and that's

CougDogg-e-Dogg

8/20/14 9:12pm

Manti went to ND because it was the fastest way to the NFL. Like Jabari.

charles

8/20/14 9:20pm

At least that was their/father's belief.

charles

8/20/14 9:24pm

Actually U$C was the quickest way. You did claim at the time that Manti did not

CougDogg-e-Dogg

8/20/14 9:28pm

rather faster than going to byu/mission. link for my claim?

charles

8/20/14 9:33pm

You grossly misinterpret what he is saying then

Bob Vance

8/20/14 8:45pm

I am sure he would love to pay as much as Alabama and Texas. The fact is

BlueForLife

8/20/14 8:09pm

You are aware that changes are being made at conference levels and not as

CougDogg-e-Dogg

8/20/14 8:19pm

Ha, the jones are the p5 not the 10 elite schools.

Bluedomination

8/20/14 8:21pm

I agree but most of the P5 schoold make a lot more than us. People will have to

BlueForLife

8/21/14 5:45pm

TH AD = TH Cal Coach

Cougfan12

8/20/14 8:10pm

That is a terrible attitude to have. We have had a good run under him and he has

BlueForLife

8/20/14 8:12pm

RE: That is a terrible attitude to have. We have had a good run under him and he

Cougfan12

8/20/14 8:21pm

maybe Cougfan12 could do a better job, he sounds like he knows everything

franklyvulgar

8/20/14 8:31pm

RE: maybe Cougfan12 could do a better job, he sounds like he knows everything

truecoug1

8/20/14 8:35pm

Well reasoned response.

Cougfan12

8/20/14 8:36pm

no, but since your fail fail fail fail comments you sure sound like someone

franklyvulgar

8/20/14 8:38pm

So by your reasoning I cant...

Cougfan12

8/20/14 8:47pm

logic fail

crazY

8/20/14 8:59pm

Your logic fail

Cougfan12

8/20/14 9:24pm

not really, captain

crazY

8/21/14 7:24am

nominated... as wpoty

TheRowdy

8/20/14 11:38pm

RE: TH AD = TH Cal Coach

nitroboy

8/20/14 9:14pm

Why thank you Mr. Nitroboy! It looks like you have brought a lot yourself...

BlueForLife

8/21/14 5:50pm

"The church does everything 1st class"... Except football apparently.

Zach Morris

8/20/14 8:12pm

yes, we spend $50k on the chandelier in the Gilbert temple but we can't afford

kotacoug

8/20/14 8:29pm

oh boy

run26

8/20/14 8:42pm

IC... BYU football = Temple...

byu_coug

8/20/14 9:28pm

I don't think it is as bad as you think.

Cougar TD

8/20/14 8:13pm

this comment will be used against us in two ways

run26

8/20/14 8:17pm

Stupidest thing you could say recruiting wise.......

Bluedomination

8/20/14 8:19pm

Unfortunately

Samurai Jack

8/20/14 8:21pm

Sad that almost everyone on this thread misinterpreted TH's comment

truecoug1

8/20/14 8:28pm

If the BOT are the hangup, maybe we need to take our athletic surplus and hire

CougDogg-e-Dogg

8/20/14 8:32pm

I love TH. This interview makes me worried that his hands are tied.

Samurai Jack

8/20/14 8:33pm

I don't long to be the "Utah" of the B12. Do you?

charles

8/20/14 8:36pm

No guarantees, but I think BYU does better in the Big XII by comparison.

Samurai Jack

8/20/14 8:38pm

You'd rather be Army?

Zach Morris

8/20/14 8:42pm

Given we will never be top 10 I'd rather be independent than like Utah.

charles

8/20/14 8:44pm

That's the spirit. Maybe the Jazz should join the D league, they'll never

Zach Morris

8/20/14 8:47pm

If they think they will ever win the NBA ch they are delusional.

charles

8/20/14 8:48pm

Great attitude. Everyone outside of the perennial top 10 should just

Zach Morris

8/20/14 8:51pm

face the fact you will not marry the cheerleader nor win the lottery.

charles

8/20/14 8:56pm

base your happiness on realistic achievable goals.

charles

8/20/14 8:58pm

yeah... It's unrealistic to ever think that we'll win the NC. Oh wait....

crazY

8/20/14 9:01pm

yes, that was a lucky fluke. like winning the lottery.

charles

8/20/14 9:06pm

if you win in Vegas the idiot keeps playing thinking he will win again.

charles

8/20/14 9:07pm

kind of like your posts, right? you have to be right on one eventually...

crazY

8/20/14 9:25pm

I still can't comprehend where this whole

Harrison0Yfan

8/20/14 10:47pm

Yeah, who wants to actually COMPETE in college athletics these days?

Zach Morris

8/20/14 8:44pm

We do compete. We will never be top 10. Live with it.

charles

8/20/14 8:46pm

By "We" do you mean you and your community soccer team? In

Zach Morris

8/20/14 8:49pm

we do compete and do our best. we do more with less. observe our NFL draft

charles

8/20/14 8:55pm

We will never overcome the $$$, HC, geography handicap compared to Tx, Al, etc.

charles

8/20/14 8:51pm

Expecting that we will is right up there with winning the lottery.

charles

8/20/14 8:52pm

We cant have winners and losers... Ribbons for everyone.

Zach Morris

8/20/14 8:45pm

I saw it like this. Imaging the following hypothetical and hyperbolic situation

StalwartBraveTrue

8/20/14 8:41pm

Hope you are right.

Samurai Jack

8/20/14 8:44pm

^^^ Bingo.

truecoug1

8/20/14 8:45pm

If he is right, I would love to hear TH say

Samurai Jack

8/20/14 8:55pm

Cougar Board taking a comment by TH out of context.

PolarisPrime

8/20/14 9:50pm

^^This

Oceanographer

8/20/14 11:11pm

Have you considered that maybe BYU doesn't want P5?

Brigham

8/20/14 9:01pm

yes, i have considered that the BOT (not BYU) doesn't want p5

run26

8/20/14 9:06pm

yes, imagine that. the BOT is not interested in the praise of the world.

charles

8/20/14 9:09pm

but they want "exposure"?

run26

8/20/14 9:11pm

you can get exposure by being top 20. You don't have to be top 10.

charles

8/20/14 9:13pm

I expect they are fine with a clean program with a top 20 realistic goal.

charles

8/20/14 9:14pm

I'm sure you are right

run26

8/20/14 9:33pm

Just humble 5 Billion dollar malls.

Zach Morris

8/20/14 9:14pm

they don't want Temple Square to be in a run down area of town.

charles

8/20/14 9:16pm

Apparently not. 5 billion later Babylon was born. But they can't

Zach Morris

8/20/14 9:23pm

It may be best for you to consider basing your happiness on something other than

charles

8/20/14 9:27pm

As long as the Church keeps up with Rodeo drive, I'm happy.

Zach Morris

8/20/14 9:29pm

You need to be more positive.

crazY

8/20/14 9:43pm

I get my joy in seeing athletic excellence on the field. Nice to win but that's

charles

8/20/14 9:29pm

Good for you.

Zach Morris

8/20/14 9:36pm

Are you really comparing City Creek mall to Babylon?

PolarisPrime

8/20/14 9:54pm

This has always been BYU's stance. They are VERY different from other teams.

SUAVO

8/20/14 9:04pm

knock it off people....you just signed to play the dogs and the sky is falling.

digitalayon

8/20/14 9:11pm

Nothing to see here.

PolarisPrime

8/20/14 9:56pm

Wrongo. TH said that right after he said UT has a $160,000,000 athletic

AntiSNOT

8/20/14 10:23pm

You should abreviate TX not UT. To easy to think UT(ah)

PolarisPrime

8/20/14 11:40pm

I think he means "BYU won't spend money just to spend money"

Harrison0Yfan

8/20/14 10:43pm

Just enough to stay competitive with good recruits.

BlueNtheFace

8/20/14 10:57pm

I would be happy if we can just have one year without a dysfunctional offense.

Jam Master J

8/20/14 11:17pm

Man up and quick shaking in the corner

chazen

8/20/14 11:20pm

Each CBer and BYU fan is going to have to come to the realization that

Walter Bellhaven

8/20/14 11:26pm

Hind sight is 20/20 - BUT had Holmoe not been so stringent

Coug Dude

8/20/14 11:43pm

Wrong, what if P5 starts distributing free condoms?

Coog4Life

8/21/14 6:59am

That's a lot of fodder for speculative extrapolation and handwringing. Go CB!

HenderCoug

8/21/14 8:01am

He said we were going to do everything necessary to be competitive...

Jomo

8/21/14 8:40am

I love BYU football, but we stand for so much more...

canofpicante

8/21/14 8:44am

Im curious what "areas" those end up being.What other areas would be possible?

Shore10

8/21/14 9:31am

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