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Sep 18, 2014
1:43:21pm

Y05

What really happened

According to Lee Benson "And They Came To Pass"

Yes, the honor code office requested a meeting after his final game, but McMahon blew it off. He also blew off his final semester. Never went to another class.

Was BYU going to kick him out? Dunno
Was he going to be disciplined with community service? Dunno
Was BYU just going to issue a warning? Dunno

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Y05

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Did anyone hear what Dan Patrick said this morning about Jim Mcmahon? I just

kotacoug

9/18/14 10:59am

Saying BYU turned a blind eye on his rule breaking until his career was over.

joehayes

9/18/14 11:07am

Except that is sorta what happened.

lawboy

9/18/14 11:13am

That is exactly what happened. I'm not disputing that. I don't even have a

joehayes

9/18/14 11:20am

I have a problem with it.

Boxey

9/18/14 12:48pm

It is hypocritical, but I'd rather have Jim Mcmahon than not have him.

joehayes

9/18/14 12:53pm

What really happened

Y05

9/18/14 1:43pm

What a great book for those who missed the Glory Years.

Bert609

9/18/14 3:32pm

McMahon's my all-time favorite Cougar and the sole reason

Boxey

9/18/14 2:04pm

They didn't turn a blind eye just for him, they did for everyone...

icecougar

9/18/14 6:47pm

I didn't criticize turning a blind eye.

Boxey

9/18/14 7:00pm

I dont mind being strict with the honor code

9/18/14 9:34pm

It is what happened and it was a mistake by BYU

pappabear246

9/18/14 9:39pm

This. And it came up in reference to schools allowing players that break rules

Grit for Brains

9/18/14 11:20am

Lavell has commented about this in an interview.

9/18/14 1:12pm

I don't think he was kicked out. I also don't believe he lived the honor code ..

joehayes

9/18/14 1:18pm

So you were there then? Having interviewed him back then,

LEDSFW

9/18/14 1:32pm

Syracuse - Larry Zonka? More like Jim Brown.

9/18/14 4:24pm

Yep. Jim Brown, then Ernie Davis, then Czonka and Floyd Little.

9/18/14 4:29pm

But if you had to choose one, it is Brown. No brainer. Although The Express

9/18/14 5:01pm

Yes, completely agree.

9/19/14 3:04am

Upon St. Crispin's Day!

Polecat

9/18/14 6:32pm

Jimmy, like a lot of young punks was also a talker

Downtown

9/18/14 1:33pm

I remember playing at the old Timpanogos golf course back in the early 80's

RC Vikings

9/18/14 1:57pm

Get real. You can't even remember the course you played on last month,

bbd24

9/18/14 2:17pm

They had a cooler anyway.

9/18/14 3:08pm

You must be a little naive, people sneak beer onto courses all the time

RC Vikings

9/18/14 3:22pm

Ok.

9/18/14 3:43pm

Jim's own biography states that he drank at golf courses while at BYU

9/18/14 5:12pm

My brother and friends did it all the time

Robert Baratheon

9/18/14 10:00pm

Jimmy Mac is your brother?

9/18/14 10:31pm

McMahon's last game was in December of 1981.

Brigham

9/18/14 8:15pm

My first summer in Provo was 1981, maybe that's why he didn't care if anybody

RC Vikings

9/18/14 8:44pm

I could buy this.

9/18/14 9:35pm

My dad said he was like the Manziel of the day, back in the day.

pt crasher

9/18/14 2:52pm

Here's the transcript from his 2008 interview with Dan Patrick

ChunkyBasty

9/18/14 2:13pm

he also said in that interview

Y05

9/18/14 2:50pm

I'm not saying he regrets going to BYU. I'm just responding to the "rumor" claim

ChunkyBasty

9/18/14 3:12pm

McMahon was an amazing QB.........PERIOD!

gstodd

9/18/14 3:12pm

TRUE!!!!............Was someone saying otherwise?

9/18/14 3:17pm

I'm sorry, but this is absolutely incorrect

cougorute

9/18/14 8:00pm

It seems Lavell disagrees with you

9/18/14 9:22pm

And you can certainly believe what you would like

cougorute

9/19/14 12:00am

He may have.

9/19/14 12:52am

Mcmahon said as much when he was on DP a few years back

ChunkyBasty

9/18/14 2:06pm

He was at least called into the HC office.

9/18/14 3:20pm

See my post above with the quote from the interview. Definitely not speculation

ChunkyBasty

9/18/14 3:23pm

Doesn't jive with Lee Benson's book as linked above.

9/18/14 3:45pm

Yeah, I wouldn't trust the guy who was there and lived through it.

ChunkyBasty

9/18/14 3:55pm

You mean like Lee Benson - the BYU athletic director?

9/18/14 4:14pm

Two differing first hand accounts. Truth is obviously somewhere in the middle.

ChunkyBasty

9/18/14 4:33pm

I have listenend to it before.

9/18/14 4:38pm

I thought Lee Benson was a reporter from the DN

mindzeYe

9/18/14 4:47pm

Glen Tuckett was the athletic director. Lee Benson was just a journalist.

eddog

9/18/14 4:52pm

Yes indeed. My bad.

9/18/14 5:12pm

I think we really need Lavell's take on McMahon to settle these disputes

mindzeYe

9/18/14 4:50pm

Regardless of anything, he deserves to be in the BYU HOF and it's long overdue

mindzeYe

9/18/14 4:51pm

Yes he does.

9/18/14 5:12pm

How about this?

9/18/14 5:15pm

great article and it proves from LE's POV that much about Mac was blown out of

mindzeYe

9/19/14 4:27am

Here are quotes from JM, Steve Young and Lavell about it.

9/18/14 5:18pm

they didn't do it just for him, that was the culture back then...

icecougar

9/18/14 6:34pm

As I said above - I think it was more common throught the entire church

9/18/14 9:37pm

Time to retire the #9 jersey with McMahons name on the back of it.

SoValleyCOUG

9/18/14 1:56pm

Bronco would have dropped the hammer on Jimmie Mac!

digitalayon

9/18/14 2:17pm

Be careful about asking questions like this....

6th-Kamikaze-mission

9/18/14 2:19pm

i wonder what made J.M. even come to BYU in the first place...

BRONCOUGAR

9/18/14 2:42pm

his mom

Y05

9/18/14 2:53pm

And Lavell

9/18/14 3:06pm

Because BYU tossed the ball 77%...None at that time did anything like it.

digitalayon

9/18/14 4:34pm

One of the main reasons he decided to go back and finish was his Dad...

Boise Coug

9/18/14 8:15pm

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