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Jul 7, 2015
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CarolinaCoug
Cimsidering bm took nover a top 25 program amd lavell built one!
...it isn't even close.
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GRAPHIC: Comparing the first 10 years of Bronco and LaVell
waberson
7/6/15 10:26pm
Bronco fields a team of below-average athletes that consistently wins games
rdiddy801
7/6/15 10:46pm
Nice job on the graphic design.
Veracruz
7/6/15 11:16pm
The metric that counts
rmsenior
7/7/15 12:08am
It's just looking at the first 10 years for each of them. So '72-'82 for LaVell
cucciolo25
7/7/15 12:55am
Utah was not a good team back then. Easy win.
Cougarclaw
7/7/15 8:49am
Utah didn't become competitive until they hired Ron McBride.
BeardedSpock
7/7/15 9:11am
This comparison won't look even after 12 years. Lavell had BYU on a steep upward
ALUF 1990
7/7/15 3:28am
I could agree if Bronco had taken over directly from Lavell. But Crowton.
panguitch
7/7/15 8:32am
Bronco inherited excellent
Gentleman Stan
7/7/15 11:49am
Most of the defensive players from 2006-2009 were his recruits
Littlerich
7/7/15 12:02pm
Somewhat true. Most of the stars in '05, '06, and '07 weren't his recruits.
Gentleman Stan
7/7/15 12:04pm
Bronco had a better starting point thanks to Lavell's legacy. But
panguitch
7/7/15 12:19pm
It was three years of mismanagement, and major honor code issues.
Gentleman Stan
7/7/15 12:37pm
BYU's "steep upward trajectory" ended in 1985
BeardedSpock
7/7/15 9:08am
Twice, 1990 and 1996... there were also some tremendous wins on the national
BerkeleyCoug
7/7/15 10:19am
Ugh. 1990. Nationally relevant to the point of a 65-14 shellacking in the bowl..
BarraCouga
7/7/15 10:36am
We spent two-thirds of the season in the Top 5 and our QB won the Heisman.
BerkeleyCoug
7/7/15 11:23am
What's the old saying...it's not where you start, it's where you finish?
BarraCouga
7/7/15 11:34am
It wasn't just the last two games of 1990. The first three of 1991 were awful
BeardedSpock
7/7/15 1:07pm
Why, why, WHY did you post that?
BeardedSpock
7/7/15 12:57pm
How do you explain away 5 ranked finishes, a Heisman trophy, a Top 5 bowl
Gentleman Stan
7/7/15 11:51am
RE: How do you explain away 5 ranked finishes, a Heisman trophy, a Top 5 bowl
BeardedSpock
7/7/15 12:57pm
Cimsidering bm took nover a top 25 program amd lavell built one!
CarolinaCoug
7/7/15 4:02am
Gary Crowton did not leave a top 25 program.
Wingnut
7/7/15 5:18am
Bronco didn't take over a top 25 program
WhiteKnight
7/7/15 9:40am
Yes he did he didn't take o er a top 25 team
CarolinaCoug
7/8/15 6:34pm
Bronco has finished ranked in 5 of 10 years.
BarraCouga
7/7/15 4:40am
Great, now Bronco needs a Natl Championship & Heisman winner in next 10 years
zerome4sooners
7/7/15 6:58am
Critics? How about honest analysis? Lets start with your surface stats...
LEDSFW
7/7/15 7:23am
Let's add a little more honesty to your honest analysis.
Blue Cat
7/8/15 3:50pm
Thanks for those details. I love both, but think Bronco gets rough treatment...
eyes4byu
7/10/15 1:05pm
9-1 vs 3-6 says it all imo..
Heinz57
7/7/15 8:36am
I'm as discontent as anyone with Bronco's rivalry record. But
panguitch
7/7/15 8:42am
Lavell's record against the Utes during his first 19 seasons: 17-2
BeardedSpock
7/7/15 9:03am
Except Lavell had a hard time beating Utah State during his first 10 years.
BeardedSpock
7/7/15 9:00am
LaVell beat Utah and USU, so your point is what now?
Heinz57
7/7/15 2:19pm
You guys can't be this myopic
CasualFan
7/8/15 7:44am
LaVell still had a winning record against Utah, Bronco hasn't
Heinz57
7/8/15 12:17pm
Not in his last 9 games...
BarraCouga
7/8/15 12:34pm
You missed...
Heinz57
7/8/15 1:19pm
That's just lazy and contains no context.
BarraCouga
7/8/15 2:33pm
Watch out for "what ifs". Bronco is 4 miracle plays away from 0-9 against Utah
ALUF 1990
7/8/15 2:48pm
And he's also a play or two away from being 7-2.
BarraCouga
7/8/15 3:50pm
The point wasn't missed.
CasualFan
7/8/15 1:04pm
Even in all of LaVell seasons
Heinz57
7/8/15 1:21pm
Again...if you want to get as close as possible comparing apples to apples...
BarraCouga
7/8/15 2:37pm
Utter garbage
CasualFan
7/8/15 3:41pm
Record against Yewts really stands out
MajorZeus
7/7/15 8:47am
Not really. The Utes were New Mexico State in those years.
BarraCouga
7/7/15 9:11am
So you are satisfied with our recent performance against Utah? Pathetic.
MajorZeus
7/7/15 9:21am
Hmmm...not sure where you got that ludicrous assertion.
BarraCouga
7/7/15 9:31am
At the end of the day it is about wins and losses. Recruiting, invites, and
MajorZeus
7/7/15 10:43am
I don't obsess about Utah.
BarraCouga
7/7/15 11:06am
You sound like Bronco...just another game. It does matter for recruiting. Utah
MajorZeus
7/7/15 12:29pm
Again...to channel Inigo Montoya..."I dunno think I said what you said I said."
BarraCouga
7/7/15 1:05pm
So we agree...every game matters.
MajorZeus
7/7/15 1:13pm
ECHO...ECHo...ECho...Echo...echo...
BarraCouga
7/7/15 1:21pm
Lavell played SEVEN top-25 teams. bronco played 19 top 25 teams
Cougarclaw
7/7/15 8:52am
7 top 25 games versus 19 top 25 games, combined with similar w/l record means La
eyes4byu
7/7/15 11:03am
In other words, only 24 of Bronco's losses were to teams not in the top 25...
eyes4byu
7/7/15 11:06am
Lavell's top win was against #1 Miami, no?
WhiteKnight
7/7/15 9:37am
...first 10 years, duh, sorry
WhiteKnight
7/7/15 9:38am
RE: Go Figure!
Beetdiggercoug
7/7/15 9:58am
you have zero NC for Lavell. That's wrong
paulb
7/7/15 11:53am
ah, may have missed you were only picking certain years.....
paulb
7/7/15 11:54am
Yes, if by selective, he was comparing Bronco's entire coaching record to date..
gmj81
7/7/15 12:03pm
not sure if sarcastic or not.....
paulb
7/8/15 11:06pm
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