I agree, I think they courted Ken for public relations reasons but from the

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Feb 11, 2016
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things I read from this far out I think KS was first choice. I would give it a B- or C+ hire

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I'm pretty sure most BYU fans would disagree with this evaluation:

Regal Ute

2/11/16 2:52pm

Nah, plenty of us are in "wait and see" mode.

SandYFan

2/11/16 2:53pm

What you said has nothing to do with the evaluation on there

southernfriedcougar

2/11/16 3:00pm

I think Kalani was the first choice all along.

El Jefe

2/11/16 2:55pm

I've never been able to reconcile in my mind that Kalani was the top pick yet

delux_247

2/11/16 3:00pm

An offer was made to Ken, but it had strings that Tom didn't expect Ken to be comfortable with.

El Jefe

2/11/16 3:05pm

Kenny's agent said as much

jpv

2/12/16 8:43am

I don't trust Kenny's agent

mogelijk

2/12/16 12:39pm

I'm not sure that Ken N. ever got a job offer.

Eddie

2/11/16 3:07pm

Low ball offer for PR sake of offering the most prominent LDS

molodyets

2/11/16 3:13pm

That would be my only argument with the grade, as well.

Eddie

2/11/16 3:04pm

I agree, I think they courted Ken for public relations reasons but from the

pappabear246

2/11/16 9:07pm

Agreed. Irritates me that people keep touting the "BYU didn't get its first choice" narrative

Harrison0Yfan

2/11/16 9:49pm

Reid was obviously is first choice however unrealistic

jpv

2/12/16 8:43am

Fine. I don't think KN was a higher priority than KS.

Harrison0Yfan

2/12/16 12:59pm

Yep, I think so too.

jpv

2/12/16 5:11pm

Mostly because they don't get the uniqueness of BYU, and how that hire can impact it.

Turnpike Lane

2/11/16 2:55pm

I agree. Kalani is up there grade wise with Helton and USC.

RaggaeCoug

2/11/16 3:00pm

Can't complain about being listed with the P5

cypresstx

2/11/16 2:56pm

I think there is some good leaked info that Ken N was not the #1 choice

BYUheaven

2/11/16 2:56pm

Hey, they grouped us with the BCS schools, not with the "Group of 5"!

darkcoug

2/11/16 2:57pm

Sure. People don't really get BYU so their evaluations of things like this

YIsForBrigham

2/11/16 2:57pm

The only problem I have is their idea that Sitake wasn't the first choice.

RaggaeCoug

2/11/16 2:59pm

I heard 1280 talking about it earlier. Their take was that (1) Kalani was probably

Byron McNertney

2/11/16 2:59pm

My thoughts too. I agree that you could list him lower for lack of experience.

byumac

2/11/16 4:45pm

I second the thoughts about ranking lower because of inexperience

Archaea

2/11/16 4:54pm

Kalani was the #1 choice, other than that I don't much care where they rank him

kimdaddy35

2/11/16 3:00pm

Ken N was not a fit for BYU. Not many are sad about the "2nd choice."

byusage

2/11/16 3:01pm

I don't think we can argue

darkcoug

2/11/16 3:01pm

Yep. I expect some pretty big growing pains.

300BLK

2/11/16 3:27pm

The quote from the Illinois AD is a classic

wapiti

2/11/16 3:05pm

I think it's a fair assessment

gww687

2/11/16 3:06pm

I'd guess most Utes would disagree as well (re Sitake). Most I've talked to

delux_247

2/11/16 3:07pm

That UVA got an A-? Yeah, I do take issue with that.

ChubbyChaser

2/11/16 3:13pm

Considering UVa is a complete dump of a football program, they deserve an A but

Bluedomination

2/11/16 3:19pm

They hired Bronco who promptly hired almost an entire staff of west coast

ChubbyChaser

2/11/16 3:22pm

I am skeptical that he was really 2nd choice. Also Bronco being an A- minus seems high. If they are just analyzing the

IceCreamButt

2/11/16 3:17pm

That is part of my issue

mogelijk

2/11/16 3:40pm

I get why an outsider would see Sitake as a risk after having supposedly "whiffing" on KN. However, the author clearly

CalGTR

2/11/16 3:32pm

At least he was listed in the P5 Hire section of the article.

Florwood

2/11/16 3:47pm

I think signing day showed us something. Other than that, who knows?

Walter Bellhaven

2/11/16 3:57pm

Whiff + a billion. Huge impact to BYU FB.

BluebloodOR

2/11/16 3:59pm

Much better to be a "C" that overachieves than an "A" that underachieves

lbmango

2/11/16 4:00pm

No, for someone who doesn't know anything about BYU the ratings seem about right. If all the author knows about BYU is

ArcticKat

2/11/16 4:08pm

Are you referring to this part?

Abe Froman

2/11/16 4:16pm

Interesting metrics. They measure KS similar to Helton...on excitement meter

StalwartBraveTrue

2/11/16 4:36pm

I would give Virginia a B/B+ and BYU a C+

vatrachos

2/11/16 6:33pm

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curmudgeon

2/11/16 7:02pm

I agree to some degree. I think Bronco was a good hire from where Virginia

pappabear246

2/11/16 9:09pm

I would but I also noticed BYU was listed with the P5 schools

BYU '80

2/11/16 11:00pm

I think I read that one. It's understandable...

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