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Jul 25, 2017
2:04:11pm

Tygger All-American

91, 43, 11, 127...

rushing yards the first four games of 2011.

Many of the complaints re: Heaps are valid as previously stated in thread, but he had absolutely no help from his OL and running game in 2011...which led to ramblin', scramblin' Riley Nelson. The rest is history.

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Time

Honest Question: Why Didn't Heaps Succeed

TFL 3rd String

7/25/17 1:15pm

I don't think any fan can answer that.

7/25/17 1:18pm

Soft. He couldn't play when real DL/LBs were given the green light and allowed

Yunit

7/25/17 9:26pm

He had a golden arm...

hammergm

7/25/17 11:06pm

Wow didn't realize what happened on that Ole Miss pick

Bgash

7/26/17 12:43am

It was the first time he was criticized

hammergm

7/26/17 7:16am

I just watched the interception.

j20

7/26/17 7:45am

RE: Honest Question: Why Didn't Heaps Succeed

CocaColaRecovery

7/25/17 1:18pm

I'd add: #3 A difficult offense that Doman was trying to bring in.

TheLoneCougar

7/25/17 1:48pm

Weak as tissue paper. Great when untouched.

ALUF 1990

7/25/17 6:31pm

Yep. And BYU's locker room was harder to win over - especially with Mendenhall

Shore10

7/26/17 7:01am

Mentally soft and poor work ethic

Backcountry

7/25/17 1:20pm

This is my guess, but I don't know anything.

CopperLix

7/25/17 1:26pm

I can confirm...poor work ethic. Expected things to be handed to him.

Machiavelli

7/25/17 3:41pm

He bailed the summer between fresh and soph years. Lost the team.

Backcountry

7/25/17 4:03pm

Yep, heard the exact same thing. Dating can be very distracting..cant blame him

Machiavelli

7/25/17 4:06pm

I think his parents got divorced too.

eddog

7/25/17 6:57pm

Let's ask Brady Poppinga

Q-grr

7/26/17 2:25am

No idea, but sure seems like his expectations of himself, the program, fans,

mosterlow

7/25/17 1:21pm

His over-hype was his biggest undoing.

mantis mutu

7/25/17 1:26pm

He got very scared of contact. Destroyed patience, reads, decision making

CobraKai

7/25/17 1:31pm

That was sad--& the coaches shoulda done more to nip that at the bud.

mantis mutu

7/25/17 1:33pm

I still remember that play when he literally tripped over himself trying not to

kolob32

7/25/17 1:41pm

He got destroyed a couple of times early in his career. I remember

SandYFan

7/25/17 1:42pm

Didn't help that we were playing a 250 pound center and that our old wouldn't

Backcountry

7/25/17 1:44pm

Yeah, definitely a major factor. Just saying, he experienced nightmares

SandYFan

7/25/17 1:46pm

While I agree with you that the OL really struggled early, the C was 6'4" 318 lb

7/25/17 2:06pm

I was think about the Tushaus disaster. Wrong year

Backcountry

7/25/17 2:20pm

Oh yeah, that really was disaster alright.

7/25/17 2:25pm

Just wow... not one of Houston Reynolds or Terrence Browns better moments.

7/25/17 1:54pm

All that does is show my my hatred for Bronco's defense. Good against bad teams

tebowned

7/25/17 4:05pm

I don't think that's fair. Broncos d was solid against everyone. Talent in

Backcountry

7/25/17 4:07pm

This is what it looked like.

QBarrister

7/26/17 9:59am

He had the training but not the tools

jes2332

7/25/17 1:38pm

#1 He got Trucked in his soph. season opener at Ole Miss and never recovered

BYUinTX

7/25/17 1:38pm

Remember that WR screen we'd run with Apo? Throw was always hitting his ankles!

YouPuntYouDye

7/25/17 3:09pm

Interesting. Makes sense. Jordan Wynn was never the same after

TFL

7/25/17 3:28pm

his reaction to that hit was palpable, he seemed genuinely terrified.

towerman

7/25/17 4:50pm

He cowered & wet himself "AFTER" the play was over against Utah. The ref stared

Y4LYFE

7/25/17 8:06pm

He didn't want to be hit.

Everyman

7/25/17 1:42pm

I was at the Ole Miss game. He moved the team downfield, then threw an

rmsenior

7/25/17 3:46pm

My honest opinion: After a pretty good 2010, he got absolutely rocked...

7/25/17 1:45pm

It was the GT game or Ole MIss. He got rocked and he came out dragging

7/25/17 2:24pm

This is the answer IMO. Bad O lines and just didn't want to take hits.

Bgash

7/25/17 5:23pm

Didn't have "IT". Wasn't a gamer. Played scared. But the main reason is

7/25/17 1:49pm

Wasn't a football player. He was a skilled passer but lacked competitive fire

fulano

7/25/17 1:53pm

I watched him play in high school

antiyewt

7/25/17 2:02pm

I actually thought he had a pretty decent freshmen year, and I suspect that the

7/25/17 2:10pm

91, 43, 11, 127...

Tygger

7/25/17 2:04pm

Chicken or the egg? D stopped run because of no threat of passes down the field

YouPuntYouDye

7/25/17 3:07pm

Anae left.

ag4cougs

7/25/17 2:14pm

Exactly

BradioHead

7/25/17 11:34pm

Agree completely.

hammergm

7/26/17 7:18am

I feel like if Jake Heaps and Riley Nelson touched, the result would be

7/25/17 2:17pm

When coaches tell fans that a player needs "development" or "isn't ready to play

Lance71

7/25/17 2:54pm

He wasn't very good during games

nashty

7/25/17 3:45pm

1. He was thrown in too early. 2. He wasn't patient enough

Indy Coug

7/25/17 3:57pm

He'd pick one reciever and throw to him no matter what

7/25/17 4:35pm

Poor Athlete with marginal size but a pretty good gun

HootnHoller

7/25/17 4:51pm

Talked with his mom...

jamesallenrocks

7/25/17 4:54pm

That says a lot

ALC

7/25/17 8:30pm

Unrealistic expectations/put in a terrible situation.

coug719

7/25/17 4:59pm

He had really terrible O lines and he was afraid of contact.

Bgash

7/25/17 5:21pm

Honest answer: I don't care anymore. He's been gone long enough.

SpiffCoug

7/25/17 5:37pm

What ever it was he had the same problems at Kansas and Miami.

Blue Coat

7/25/17 6:53pm

Fear, scared, selfish, millennial, wife, parents, personal trainer, Bronco, Anae

Y4LYFE

7/25/17 8:06pm

For my perspective

ALC

7/25/17 8:29pm

Soft. He couldn't play when real DL/LBs were given the green light and allowed

Yunit

7/25/17 9:36pm

Two reasons: 1.) Himself 2.) Doman

IronPotato

7/25/17 10:04pm

He was a good practice player. Not a game player.

Count Cougar

7/25/17 10:38pm

I think a better question is how did the guy get so much attention based only...

Jasbo

7/25/17 11:11pm

My list

shakarocks

7/26/17 7:20am

Nice analysis, thanks. My question why WAS the OL so bad in Doman's offense?

7/26/17 10:03am

Mostly depth

shakarocks

7/26/17 11:20am

I agree 100% on #5

YouPuntYouDye

7/26/17 10:04am

He's not a football player. He's a human JUGS machine

byuTX

7/26/17 7:25am

Apo looked so good early in his career as well. Such a bummer.

Shore10

7/26/17 8:40am

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