I actually thought he had a pretty decent freshmen year, and I suspect that the

Jul 25, 2017
2:10:09pm

cougfromcali All-American

...coaches still had the Ben Olson debacle fresh in their minds, so they wanted to make sure Heaps knew that they were committed to him.

To me, I thought that things didn't really fall apart until the beginning of Heaps sophomore season.

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Honest Question: Why Didn't Heaps Succeed

TFL 3rd String

7/25/17 1:15pm

I don't think any fan can answer that.

Lip Gallagher

7/25/17 1:18pm

Soft. He couldn't play when real DL/LBs were given the green light and allowed

Yunit

7/25/17 9:26pm

He had a golden arm...

hammergm

7/25/17 11:06pm

Wow didn't realize what happened on that Ole Miss pick

Bgash

7/26/17 12:43am

It was the first time he was criticized

hammergm

7/26/17 7:16am

I just watched the interception.

j20

7/26/17 7:45am

RE: Honest Question: Why Didn't Heaps Succeed

CocaColaRecovery

7/25/17 1:18pm

I'd add: #3 A difficult offense that Doman was trying to bring in.

TheLoneCougar

7/25/17 1:48pm

Weak as tissue paper. Great when untouched.

ALUF 1990

7/25/17 6:31pm

Yep. And BYU's locker room was harder to win over - especially with Mendenhall

Shore10

7/26/17 7:01am

Mentally soft and poor work ethic

Backcountry

7/25/17 1:20pm

This is my guess, but I don't know anything.

CopperLix

7/25/17 1:26pm

I can confirm...poor work ethic. Expected things to be handed to him.

Machiavelli

7/25/17 3:41pm

He bailed the summer between fresh and soph years. Lost the team.

Backcountry

7/25/17 4:03pm

Yep, heard the exact same thing. Dating can be very distracting..cant blame him

Machiavelli

7/25/17 4:06pm

I think his parents got divorced too.

eddog

7/25/17 6:57pm

Let's ask Brady Poppinga

Q-grr

7/26/17 2:25am

No idea, but sure seems like his expectations of himself, the program, fans,

mosterlow

7/25/17 1:21pm

His over-hype was his biggest undoing.

mantis mutu

7/25/17 1:26pm

He got very scared of contact. Destroyed patience, reads, decision making

CobraKai

7/25/17 1:31pm

That was sad--& the coaches shoulda done more to nip that at the bud.

mantis mutu

7/25/17 1:33pm

I still remember that play when he literally tripped over himself trying not to

kolob32

7/25/17 1:41pm

He got destroyed a couple of times early in his career. I remember

SandYFan

7/25/17 1:42pm

Didn't help that we were playing a 250 pound center and that our old wouldn't

Backcountry

7/25/17 1:44pm

Yeah, definitely a major factor. Just saying, he experienced nightmares

SandYFan

7/25/17 1:46pm

While I agree with you that the OL really struggled early, the C was 6'4" 318 lb

cougfromcali

7/25/17 2:06pm

I was think about the Tushaus disaster. Wrong year

Backcountry

7/25/17 2:20pm

Oh yeah, that really was disaster alright.

cougfromcali

7/25/17 2:25pm

Just wow... not one of Houston Reynolds or Terrence Browns better moments.

cougfromcali

7/25/17 1:54pm

All that does is show my my hatred for Bronco's defense. Good against bad teams

tebowned

7/25/17 4:05pm

I don't think that's fair. Broncos d was solid against everyone. Talent in

Backcountry

7/25/17 4:07pm

This is what it looked like.

QBarrister

7/26/17 9:59am

He had the training but not the tools

jes2332

7/25/17 1:38pm

#1 He got Trucked in his soph. season opener at Ole Miss and never recovered

BYUinTX

7/25/17 1:38pm

Remember that WR screen we'd run with Apo? Throw was always hitting his ankles!

YouPuntYouDye

7/25/17 3:09pm

Interesting. Makes sense. Jordan Wynn was never the same after

TFL

7/25/17 3:28pm

his reaction to that hit was palpable, he seemed genuinely terrified.

towerman

7/25/17 4:50pm

He cowered & wet himself "AFTER" the play was over against Utah. The ref stared

Y4LYFE

7/25/17 8:06pm

He didn't want to be hit.

Everyman

7/25/17 1:42pm

I was at the Ole Miss game. He moved the team downfield, then threw an

rmsenior

7/25/17 3:46pm

My honest opinion: After a pretty good 2010, he got absolutely rocked...

cougfromcali

7/25/17 1:45pm

It was the GT game or Ole MIss. He got rocked and he came out dragging

Dr BlueFreak

7/25/17 2:24pm

This is the answer IMO. Bad O lines and just didn't want to take hits.

Bgash

7/25/17 5:23pm

Didn't have "IT". Wasn't a gamer. Played scared. But the main reason is

Gerald-DeGroot

7/25/17 1:49pm

Wasn't a football player. He was a skilled passer but lacked competitive fire

fulano

7/25/17 1:53pm

I watched him play in high school

antiyewt

7/25/17 2:02pm

I actually thought he had a pretty decent freshmen year, and I suspect that the

cougfromcali

7/25/17 2:10pm

91, 43, 11, 127...

Tygger

7/25/17 2:04pm

Chicken or the egg? D stopped run because of no threat of passes down the field

YouPuntYouDye

7/25/17 3:07pm

Anae left.

ag4cougs

7/25/17 2:14pm

Exactly

BradioHead

7/25/17 11:34pm

Agree completely.

hammergm

7/26/17 7:18am

I feel like if Jake Heaps and Riley Nelson touched, the result would be

Ty10s_WinGames

7/25/17 2:17pm

When coaches tell fans that a player needs "development" or "isn't ready to play

Lance71

7/25/17 2:54pm

He wasn't very good during games

nashty

7/25/17 3:45pm

1. He was thrown in too early. 2. He wasn't patient enough

Indy Coug

7/25/17 3:57pm

He'd pick one reciever and throw to him no matter what

zerome4sooners

7/25/17 4:35pm

Poor Athlete with marginal size but a pretty good gun

HootnHoller

7/25/17 4:51pm

Talked with his mom...

jamesallenrocks

7/25/17 4:54pm

That says a lot

ALC

7/25/17 8:30pm

Unrealistic expectations/put in a terrible situation.

coug719

7/25/17 4:59pm

He had really terrible O lines and he was afraid of contact.

Bgash

7/25/17 5:21pm

Honest answer: I don't care anymore. He's been gone long enough.

SpiffCoug

7/25/17 5:37pm

What ever it was he had the same problems at Kansas and Miami.

Blue Coat

7/25/17 6:53pm

Fear, scared, selfish, millennial, wife, parents, personal trainer, Bronco, Anae

Y4LYFE

7/25/17 8:06pm

For my perspective

ALC

7/25/17 8:29pm

Soft. He couldn't play when real DL/LBs were given the green light and allowed

Yunit

7/25/17 9:36pm

Two reasons: 1.) Himself 2.) Doman

IronPotato

7/25/17 10:04pm

He was a good practice player. Not a game player.

Count Cougar

7/25/17 10:38pm

I think a better question is how did the guy get so much attention based only...

Jasbo

7/25/17 11:11pm

My list

shakarocks

7/26/17 7:20am

Nice analysis, thanks. My question why WAS the OL so bad in Doman's offense?

cougfromcali

7/26/17 10:03am

Mostly depth

shakarocks

7/26/17 11:20am

I agree 100% on #5

YouPuntYouDye

7/26/17 10:04am

He's not a football player. He's a human JUGS machine

byuTX

7/26/17 7:25am

Apo looked so good early in his career as well. Such a bummer.

Shore10

7/26/17 8:40am

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