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Oct 19, 2017
12:08:50pm

Turbine All-American

Comparing fanbases in the American to others:

I had a tough time finding any recent numbers, but here is the best link I could find:

https://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/the-geography-of-college-football-fans-and-realignment-chaos/

Here are some interesting numbers from the time of the article:

BYU: 709k

AAC Teams:

Uconn: 618k
USF: 520k
UCF: 506k
ECU: 348k
Cinci: 322k

Others:
Lville: 300k
Utah: 351k
Boise: 483k
USU: 65k
Toledo: 109k
TCU: 370k
USC: 1.2 mil
Texas 2.5 mil
Ohio St: 3.1
Wake F: 149k
Miss St: 550k

Basically, there are a number of AAC teams that in terms of fanbase could match up with mid range P5 schools. Houston and Memphis were very low in the article, but that has changed in the past 5 years, as has Utah and Lville I am sure. What the conference would be missing is that 1 marquee school. Some team with over a million would change the view of the conference in my opinion.

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The American Conference push for P6. Could this benefit BYU?

Turbine

10/19/17 11:04am

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kolob32

10/19/17 11:09am

Here's the interview I did with Mike this summer

bcriddle

10/19/17 6:53pm

My guess is that the P5 wants to become the P4 more than it wants to be the P6

Y2k

10/19/17 11:09am

I would think the bigger programs in the P5 would just as soon get rid of the

ByuMba90

10/19/17 11:14am

While that may be true, the big boys have to have 6-8 games a year that they

Nat Gas Man

10/19/17 11:16am

Very good point, I hadn't thought of the padding of the stats (win column)

jaredm

10/19/17 11:42am

If that happens, Texas and OU go to the B1G, SEC, or PAC, and the rest fall away

TailgateU

10/19/17 12:48pm

This is reality, I believe The Ringer actually did a great breakdown of what the

gww687

10/19/17 12:17pm

The American isn't prestigious enough to warrant P6 status

Dissenter

10/19/17 11:09am

It's all about the $$$ -- AAC doesn't have a "powerhouse" team

WorfoSAUR

10/19/17 11:22am

Not to mention none of those programs have had

RoyalCoug99

10/19/17 11:34am

it's even worse than that now because value isn't in numbers of households, that

Nat Gas Man

10/19/17 11:34am

Comparing fanbases in the American to others:

Turbine

10/19/17 12:08pm

couple of problems 1) that article has terrible research behind it. 2) fan bases

Nat Gas Man

10/19/17 1:06pm

Anti-American^^^^

Blueto

10/19/17 11:53am

Indy is so prestigious!!! ARMY UMass...

blackshirts

10/19/17 7:29pm

In all reality. Yes. I feel that the AAC, with all of the success that they've had recently + BYU

BlueVU

10/19/17 11:13am

This probably sums up the reality best.

Turbine

10/19/17 11:43am

It's not a perceived bias. It is a demonstrated bias.

TailgateU

10/19/17 12:01pm

Though true, I don’t totally dismiss reputation or interaction that leave some

MatthiasG

10/19/17 12:20pm

CB Lawyers: Is there any potential for a lawsuit for them to gain inclusion?

GOR

10/19/17 1:26pm

Not a lawyer. But I can tell you that there has be real evidence of exclusion

Lance71

10/19/17 6:55pm

The advantage to being a "Power" conference is money from TV contracts.

Boomcannon

10/19/17 2:36pm

Actually, "Power 5" refers to the 5 conferences with automatic bids to the NY6,

10/19/17 5:37pm

Yes, no and maybe. They would have to have the current P5 vote for them to have

Nat Gas Man

10/19/17 11:13am

A couple of things.

SCcoug

10/19/17 11:22am

What good would P6 inclusion be though? I doubt the media money would suddenly

crack

10/19/17 11:23am

you'd be in a conference with an auto bid to the NY6. That REALLY helps with recruiting. The ACC wouldn't always be

HarlemCoug

10/19/17 11:39am

If the playoffs expanded to 8 and the aac champ had a chance to be

mtnKat

10/19/17 11:51am

You have to have a top 10 program in the conference

Remigius

10/19/17 11:57am

Probably more like a consistent top 10 with a regular fan base of well over 1M

gww687

10/19/17 12:18pm

That's like asking the cartel standing next to the fountain of youth

10/19/17 12:21pm

Nice pipe dream...except the P5 is pushing for P4.

cdr88

10/19/17 12:33pm

I wonder how long the anti-competitive action will happen. It's technically

TailgateU

10/19/17 12:47pm

Should be acted on but it seems the size of one's legal budget determines the

cdr88

10/19/17 1:29pm

They all voted for it. Pretty had to sue when you agreed 100%

Nat Gas Man

10/19/17 1:49pm

Sweet, It will be even harder to get in

kolob32

10/19/17 1:06pm

A better solution would be to eliminate the power status all together. And

Turd Furguson

10/19/17 12:50pm

What? A playoff? That's too complicated for D1.

TailgateU

10/19/17 12:52pm

I know. There are too many teams. G5 teams would end up in the same spot.

Turd Furguson

10/19/17 1:00pm

There are 130 FBS teams and 124 FCS teams. How does FCS figure it out?

TailgateU

10/19/17 1:11pm

yeah, maybe you move to a bigger playoff. Kind of like ncaa basketball.

Turd Furguson

10/19/17 2:21pm

So said Mike Leach

TailgateU

10/19/17 2:47pm

It's more about football brands than on-field performance

Hill4Heisman

10/19/17 1:01pm

BYU missed the boat being stupid

kosmokramer

10/19/17 1:04pm

that was never an option btw

10/19/17 1:05pm

Of course it was

kosmokramer

10/19/17 4:17pm

at that point the big east was no longer considered a power conference

10/19/17 4:33pm

Yes, but BYU could have and should have joined at that time

kosmokramer

10/19/17 4:37pm

BYU has a standing offer to join any time they want.

Lance71

10/19/17 6:58pm

No, we’re going to wait until the program is on life support before we do the

10/19/17 7:07pm

Yes, lets talk AAC and the 20 Team Conference!

SportsRoad

10/19/17 1:31pm

Would be too many games, but getting the top two from your

bigbossbyu

10/19/17 1:45pm

No, you play the 9 teams in your div and have 3 non conference games

SportsRoad

10/19/17 1:47pm

yep. guaranteed no repeat game in the championship game. less travel too

Return of the Yeti

10/19/17 2:38pm

Nothing in there about BYU

Cougtruth

10/19/17 2:22pm

Didn't Criddle recently interview the AAC commissioner?

BlueVU

10/19/17 2:28pm

It’s something.

Cougtruth

10/19/17 3:20pm

The P5 does not care about the AAC success. It is all about the $$$.

Cougstreak

10/19/17 2:28pm

Funny thing to me is that if we did join the AAC, the AAC could boast that they have a more recent undisputed

BlueVU

10/19/17 2:34pm

Not exactly.....

Cougtruth

10/19/17 3:43pm

Not exactly II

Cougtruth

10/19/17 3:48pm

Yes, especially if we joined with Boise State.

Bee Chunder

10/19/17 2:36pm

No way!!! This Indy thing is working so well! We need to be patient we are only

blackshirts

10/19/17 2:49pm

No insight here: but if the AAC is close to acheiving this landmark goal

Cougarpride

10/19/17 4:50pm

Not going to happen. P5 schools have no reason to expand playoffs/bowl access.

k2coug

10/19/17 9:27pm

Sustainability. The MWC could have made the same arguments 10 yrs ago

RedlandsCoug

10/19/17 10:51pm

I watched entire Houston-Memphis game. BYU isn't good enough for AAC

Y4LYFE

10/19/17 11:56pm

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