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Article: The rise and fall: An inside look at the decline of BYU's marquee sports programs View

[Deseret News] Doug Robinson

11/21/17 11:05pm

Leave it to a USU alum to write about how horrible things are at BYU right now.

cosmohio

11/21/17 11:33pm

Did you read the article, I think he did a good job pointing out the current

RC Vikings

11/22/17 2:40am

Absolutely, RC Vikings

bluegato

11/22/17 4:22am

I agree. Great read.

Hawk Talons

11/22/17 9:50am

The point of the article is that it's "not right now" but how it's been for

cougfanz

11/22/17 6:37am

Agree. This article is fake news. Anyone can see it.

LuvMyAggies

11/22/17 2:56pm

Does neutral/negative exposure equal fake news?

D.T. Survivor

11/22/17 8:03pm

Robinson has been plugged in to BYU at a high level

shakarocks

11/22/17 5:34pm

Ouch! Its always easy to pile on. Better days will come.

Tango

11/22/17 12:59am

Better than this year? yes.. Better than what bronco achieved? There's

cougfanz

11/22/17 6:45am

The SLC media is piling on heavily! Hang true, Cougs!

Fervent Cougar

11/22/17 10:43am

It's a well written article.

slowhiteguy

11/22/17 7:06am

It’s a good, in depth analysis.

Everyman

11/22/17 7:10am

I didn't realize we were that close to joining the PAC

Iman23

11/22/17 7:23am

Basically BYU advocated to take Utah as well so the PAC just took Utah

Mr. Jerry

11/22/17 7:39am

Utah actually did lobby for BYU, but it didn't go anywhere

zuxvon

11/22/17 10:31am

Not quite.

jrj84105

11/23/17 8:34am

Very good, honest article.

mm73

11/22/17 7:32am

Well written. Our LDS church can’t have a football program in this environment

youngster

11/22/17 7:33am

Agree. It's changed my thoughts on independence.

cougfanz

11/22/17 7:59am

Crawling back to the MWC solves nothing

youngster

11/22/17 8:08am

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youngster

11/22/17 8:13am

Except for the fact that we'd be more competitive in a conference

shakarocks

11/22/17 9:40am

I agree which is why Independence will probably be the long term solution

demon_llama

11/22/17 9:33am

TCU is absolutely not a church school, despite the name of it.

TheLoneCougar

11/24/17 10:43am

That’s fine. But it is affiliated with the Disciples of Christ.

demon_llama

11/24/17 12:35pm

Totally agree!

Fervent Cougar

11/22/17 10:44am

I agree with this article.

Thunderbird

11/22/17 8:08am

Holmoe and Worthen refused to comment for A DNews article?

CallingDingo

11/22/17 8:48am

It also says something about the DNews.

panguitch

11/22/17 8:58am

My guess is they can't comment because

shakarocks

11/22/17 9:41am

Both should be held accountable & BOT must decide if they want a major program!

What_The_Hill?

11/22/17 9:50am

They already made that decision

TNT

11/22/17 7:16pm

Great article with new information that had only been speculated about before.

StalwartBraveTrue

11/22/17 9:34am

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Abe Froman

11/22/17 9:43am

I’ll give you POTD. You were right for a long time with no validation

Hawk Talons

11/22/17 9:55am

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Abe Froman

11/22/17 12:39pm

Why is that message deleted

The Dangler

11/22/17 10:17am

Not deleted

Hawk Talons

11/22/17 10:29am

We should have a statue of Ann Richards on our campus

curmudgeon

11/22/17 11:19am

This article also makes me think in hindsight Ken N. may have been the right

Hawk Talons

11/22/17 9:57am

Maybe but maybe not

shakarocks

11/22/17 10:00am

You are absolutely right.

Hawk Talons

11/22/17 10:08am

Yup. We hired the wrong guy.

mm73

11/22/17 11:12am

My unsolicited $.02 on this article

curmudgeon

11/22/17 11:18am

Crazy that we were pretty much in but needed a travel partner and we vouched for

Manutd

11/22/17 12:22pm

Vouching for each other held ZERO TV value. It applied

ALUF 1990

11/22/17 1:35pm

Utah was fortunate. They got in for not being BYU.

Downtown

11/22/17 2:16pm

You’re right. Just hard to imagine chris hill promoting byu.

Manutd

11/22/17 5:01pm

So Ann Richards kept us out of TWO P5 conferences?!

che flaco

11/22/17 1:59pm

I never thought this would happen but I now wonder if sports will be dropped

D.T. Survivor

11/22/17 2:16pm

I don't disagree, but the Church isn't afraid to buy billboards in Time Square

Iman23

11/22/17 2:52pm

Robinson does a good job here.

SaturdaySpecialDay

11/22/17 2:41pm

Very well written article. Robinson nailed it.

eddog

11/22/17 3:06pm

Some truth. Plenty of hyperbole presented as objectivity.

Coogar2

11/22/17 3:19pm

I have one HUGE quibble. The PAC didn’t look down on religion in the 90s? Wrong

ALUF 1990

11/23/17 7:14am

Fehlberg

jrj84105

11/23/17 8:30am

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