the numbers will tell you that BYU at some point will be as hard to get into as Stanford. It won't ever be a Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, etc. because it will never do the research and grant the PhDs....that I am OK with. BYU-I and BYU-P (Pathways) will be the future for most LDS kids college experience in the future, although BYU-I will soon start to peak as well.