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Sep 8, 2017
12:53:27pm

2FarGone All-American

It's not the same

I like BYU-I, but it's not BYU. It just isn't.

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2FarGone

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My two wishes for BYU, the institution.

riboflavin

9/8/17 12:45pm

I think the second is easier to pull off

2FarGone

9/8/17 12:47pm

I heard an apostle at a BYU devotional say that the money the church

riboflavin

9/8/17 12:49pm

Let's be honest, if every undergrad had his/her tuition raised $1000/yr - not a

unctoothman

9/8/17 1:01pm

for 10% more students you need more Phds and admin staff

Nat Gas Man

9/8/17 1:45pm

Raise it by $2k then. That's still under $10k for the degree, and $10k or more

unctoothman

9/8/17 2:20pm

#2 isn't needed. That's exactly why BYU-Idaho exists

Dissenter

9/8/17 12:48pm

It's not the same

2FarGone

9/8/17 12:53pm

I'm not going to slam BYU-I because I think it's great in a lot

riboflavin

9/8/17 12:58pm

ByuI can just as easily accomplish number 2

cougarfann888

9/8/17 12:48pm

Is BYUI denying anybody at this point?

mudpupper

9/8/17 12:52pm

I would love to see #2 even more than #1

Chambana Coug

9/8/17 12:49pm

Sounds like a bad west concourse joke.

fulano

9/8/17 1:12pm

#1 needs to happen and Asap

Cougar TD

9/8/17 12:52pm

First one is hard because I think a code of conduct is a very positive thing for

TaiJuan

9/8/17 12:52pm

I think a code of conduct (even a strict one) is a great thing at a religious

riboflavin

9/8/17 1:03pm

I guess the question is: if there's a code of conduct by BYU that includes

TaiJuan

9/8/17 1:09pm

I don't think someone who breaks the law of chastity or the WOW should

The Dude Abides

9/8/17 1:24pm

I largely agree. I guess that interim punitive measures, short of being kicked

TaiJuan

9/8/17 1:25pm

BYU-I serves as somewhat of a release valve for BYU.

TheWanderer

9/8/17 12:55pm

#2 Here's a great way to start. Unsubsidized tuition after 4 years!

Tango

9/8/17 12:56pm

Make it 9 semesters. Almost no one graduates in 8 semesters anymore.

Turnpike Lane

9/8/17 1:00pm

although schools that have made this part of admissions have seen the average

Nat Gas Man

9/8/17 1:47pm

In the eyes of the church, #2 is done with the other church schools BYU-I and

OGSuperfan

9/8/17 1:00pm

Great ideas, but wishes don't always come true. It's not like there are geodes

BE-WHY-YOU

9/8/17 1:02pm

I don't agree with #2 unless huge changes are made.

TCuz

9/8/17 1:03pm

How can campus be overcrowded?

2FarGone

9/8/17 1:06pm

It is only overcrowded between classes

mudpupper

9/8/17 1:10pm

vastly underutilized at night

Nat Gas Man

9/8/17 1:50pm

My vote: 1. Bishops (priesthood keys) monitor the honor code. 2. We cut enrollment by 10% and double tuition. My #3

HarlemCoug

9/8/17 1:08pm

why?

Incentivize

9/8/17 1:14pm

because

HarlemCoug

9/8/17 1:14pm

Not gonna happen. BYU won't become your college prep boy exclusive fantasy school. Not its mission.

Turnpike Lane

9/8/17 1:32pm

so I want the school to be better and place grads with better/higher paying jobs and all of a sudden that means I want

HarlemCoug

9/8/17 1:37pm

I read this as you wanting it to look more like a Stanford or Northwestern than

TaiJuan

9/8/17 1:42pm

You escalated it by wanting it to be more exclusive. I just described what you wanted it to be.

Turnpike Lane

9/8/17 1:48pm

too many have a vastly inflated picture of BYU's status in the job market. It's easily described this way... Why don't

HarlemCoug

9/8/17 1:56pm

personally I wouldn't hate it if BYU eliminated the B School undergrad programs

Nat Gas Man

9/8/17 2:00pm

Sadly it will become more exclusive, just run the future numbers for LDS HS kids

Nat Gas Man

9/8/17 1:54pm

Double tuition = decreased student debt?

Squeegee

9/8/17 1:35pm

Uhh I get called and asked for money all time. Started basically

JuicyJam

9/8/17 2:09pm

I get calls from BYU less than once per year. They should be more aggressive. My grad school reaches out 2x/yr.

HarlemCoug

9/8/17 2:12pm

Cheap Mormon syndrome...yes it is a disease....I helped put together a program

Nat Gas Man

9/8/17 2:16pm

As long as people feel they are already indirectly making huge contributions of

Chambana Coug

9/8/17 3:14pm

BYU needs to significantly raise tuition. It'd still be best value around.

keoki

9/8/17 1:11pm

why?

Incentivize

9/8/17 1:14pm

Just double the tuition and require a FASA for every student, then grant more

Nat Gas Man

9/8/17 1:56pm

I don't think I've ever met, nor heard of any student who passed on BYU because of cost. Have you?

Delicate Genius

9/8/17 2:24pm

I know several. Scholarship to UVU was more important than going to BYU

Dissenter

9/8/17 3:18pm

there are lots, all my brother's kids went to the U because of scholarships

Nat Gas Man

9/8/17 4:13pm

Ah. Scholarships is not the same as affordability, which is what I was thinking of.

Delicate Genius

9/8/17 4:27pm

There would be too much variation in how bishops might uphold the honor code.

lightmann

9/8/17 1:42pm

#1 Sure pile more on our good Bishops. Someone missed shaving in ECON 110, call

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